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  • #76
    Originally posted by ck3
    I'm still in search of an analog-tinged, oscillating delay setting, but I am enjoying the GT-8 even more each time I experiment with a new feature.

    I cycled through almost every amp model, stomp box sim, and most of the effects earlier this evening and ran most of my outboard pedals in the loop ... though there were many interesting combinations, I only managed to develop one complete preset and a couple of partial ideas ... even with my years of experience with multifx/modeling units, I can tell that it is going to be a while before I have a total understanding of how all of the GT-8's features interact.


    ACtually it's "simpler than it looks"
    When I first got it it seemed a bit cumbersome to me too, but it was because I was used to the "old way" of doing things. This way is actually easier since it's all about knobs! and not about menus really. Just about everything has a dedicated button and knob! Just like stompboxes. But all those buttons and knobs just make it look confusing. IMO the things that are most confusing are just the plethora of settings you can have. They've crammed everytihing into this one.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by BryanMichael


      ACtually it's "simpler than it looks"
      When I first got it it seemed a bit cumbersome to me too, but it was because I was used to the "old way" of doing things. This way is actually easier since it's all about knobs! and not about menus really. Just about everything has a dedicated button and knob! Just like stompboxes. But all those buttons and knobs just make it look confusing. IMO the things that are most confusing are just the plethora of settings you can have. They've crammed everytihing into this one.

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      Though the interface is more user-friendly than most, I'm still anxiously awaiting official Boss editing software for the GT-8. I've noitced that a group of users has authored an application, but am a bit leary of trying it without some positive reports from others.

      On a side note, what is the scoop regarding the GT-8 firmware upgrade? I read about it someplace, but haven't investigated the matter any further. Does it enhance the features of the unit in any way? Has it been installed on newer units already? Are there any inherent dangers invovled in the update process?
      ERG and multifx fanatic.

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      • #78
        The "Smooth" setting allows the delays to get some self osc pitchshift stuff. Otherwise you will just hear ticking noises when tweaking the delay time.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by ck3

          I've noitced that a group of users has authored an application, but am a bit leary of trying it without some positive reports from others.

          On a side note, what is the scoop regarding the GT-8 firmware upgrade? I read about it someplace, but haven't investigated the matter any further. Does it enhance the features of the unit in any way? Has it been installed on newer units already? Are there any inherent dangers invovled in the update process?

          Hey ya -

          I am still having a bit of trouble getting the GT8Editor (the user built one) to work with my system - however, some other testers are having success. I believe my problems are due to MIDI latency.

          On the firmware... you can take your GT8 to the place you got it and they are supposed to be able to update it to the new firmware. You can do it yourself, but a small handful of people have fried their units somehow. In most cases, following the help file resulted in a successful update.

          I believe the firmware update did result in a few improvements sonically... but I have no way to prove it. Some people have hooked up sonic analyzers and stuff to see... but I just trust my ears.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by Kewlpack

            On the firmware... you can take your GT8 to the place you got it and they are supposed to be able to update it to the new firmware. You can do it yourself, but a small handful of people have fried their units somehow. In most cases, following the help file resulted in a successful update.



            I purchased mine online ... so I would have to assume responsibility for the update ... and any system failures that may ensue ... ... after having some pretty serious firmware upgrade issues with my former Digitech GNX2, I think I'll wait until Boss has streamlined the updating process a bit before pursuing any further. Besides, the current degree of functionality is satisfactory by my standards.
            ERG and multifx fanatic.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by SteveR
              The "Smooth" setting allows the delays to get some self osc pitchshift stuff. Otherwise you will just hear ticking noises when tweaking the delay time.


              ERG and multifx fanatic.

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              • #82
                A little theory for you guys.

                In order to replicate an analog signal you must sample at atleast twice the highest frequency. In a guitar's case 4-8kHz is the highest frequency meaning a sample rate of around 8-16kHz. Since it is a standard on all GT units that the sample rate is 44.1kHz, any who says that the unit kills their tone is just being plecibic.

                Also a 21 bit representation DA as on the GT3 units gives a definition of around 2.1 million parts. The 24 bit representation DA on the GT8 gives a definition of around 16.7 million parts. So in theory it should have a bit more definition then a GT3 unit. But the difference to the human ear is very small.

                Other then the obvious bit representation, are there any other major differences between the GT units?
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Locky
                  A little theory for you guys.

                  In order to replicate an analog signal you must sample at atleast twice the highest frequency. In a guitar's case 4-8kHz is the highest frequency meaning a sample rate of around 8-16kHz. Since it is a standard on all GT units that the sample rate is 44.1kHz, any who says that the unit kills their tone is just being plecibic.

                  Also a 21 bit representation DA as on the GT3 units gives a definition of around 2.1 million parts. The 24 bit representation DA on the GT8 gives a definition of around 16.7 million parts. So in theory it should have a bit more definition then a GT3 unit. But the difference to the human ear is very small.

                  Other then the obvious bit representation, are there any other major differences between the GT units?


                  Dude you are WAY behind-
                  Dot-Dot-Dot covers the digital theory lesson every time some idiot jumps up and claims that analog BY IT'S VERY NATURE is somehow "superior" to digital representations of audio signals.

                  Anyway, yeah. There are quite a few differences between the GT units. I direct you to www.bossgtcentral.com to explore the differences.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by BryanMichael
                    I direct you to www.bossgtcentral.com to explore the differences.

                    We're waiting for you guys!
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                    • #85
                      I can't freakin' believe it ... I'm nearing the point of being able to succesfully emulate "Fuzz I" from the Boss FZ-2 Hyperfuzz with the GT-8's octave fuzz sim.

                      I just have to hone the pre/post eq structure a bit more.
                      ERG and multifx fanatic.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by ck3
                        I can't freakin' believe it ... I'm nearing the point of being able to succesfully emulate "Fuzz I" from the Boss FZ-2 Hyperfuzz with the GT-8's octave fuzz sim.

                        I just have to hone the pre/post eq structure a bit more.


                        yeah I use the boss COSM for my hyper fuzz sound.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by SteveR


                          yeah I use the boss COSM for my hyper fuzz sound.


                          Which COSM unit do you have?
                          ERG and multifx fanatic.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ck3


                            Which COSM unit do you have?


                            I use a boss br1600 recorder for all the clips you have heard on HC. It has the COSM models from the boss gt6 unit.

                            I find the ME50 has ****************ing awesome distortion for recording with a nice audio interface.

                            the muff, octave fuzz, and other distortions are top notch.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by SteveR


                              I use a boss br1600 recorder for all the clips you have heard on HC. It has the COSM models from the boss gt6 unit.

                              I find the ME50 has ****************ing awesome distortion for recording with a nice audio interface.

                              the muff, octave fuzz, and other distortions are top notch.


                              I like most of the OD, Distortion, and Octave Fuzz and Fuzzface sims on the GT-8, but found the Muff to be lacking a certain "something". I dunno ... maybe I just need to spend some more time tweaking it.
                              ERG and multifx fanatic.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by ck3


                                I like most of the OD, Distortion, and Octave Fuzz and Fuzzface sims on the GT-8, but found the Muff to be lacking a certain "something". I dunno ... maybe I just need to spend some more time tweaking it.


                                maybe. The one thing I hate about the boss COSM is the eq. Its parametric rather than graphic. I had rather have like a 10 band graphic eq to tweak than 20 ****************ing high freq, mid high freq. I dont understand that stuff.

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