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    Ok... in my somewhat limited experiences over the years with Big Muffs (had a grey Sovtek and also a Creamy Dreamer), I found out that they just don't cut through the band well in a practice setting.

    I know I'm not the only one who feels that way. Someone posted a link either here on Guitar Geek to an article where Billy Corgan was talking about hearing a Big Muff for the first time, by the band Catherine in a small neighboring practice space.. and how he just loved the sound how full it was. But after he and James got theirs and tried to use them on stage it was a totally different story (no closed quarters). Fine for small spaces and recording.. bad for live.

    Anyways...so I'm thinking I want a Fuzz again, and I'm pretty sure I'm a Muff-type of guy vs a Hendrix or Texas Fuzz type of guy... so give me some recommendations... and ask me questions if I'm missing something.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by The Gainster
      Top Fuel


      I am getting one real soon, the only question left is "what color?"



      Check the clips link in gainsters sig, the Top Fuel is what you want.
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      • #4
        Hmm.. wish some of the clips on the site showed some more rhythmy sounds.

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        • #5
          what about getting the EHX graphic fuzz?


          you can tailor the EQ to exactly what you need to cut through.

          "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way."
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          • #6
            Here's the Corgan article you're talking about:

            http://billycorgan.com/confession13.html

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            • #7
              Haven't used it in a full on band setting, but I'd have trouble believing that the foxey fuzz doesn't cut through.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BillyGrahamCracker
                Here's the Corgan article you're talking about:

                http://billycorgan.com/confession13.html

                good read.

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                • #9
                  I just ordered the Top Fuel. I will post my findings when I get it!
                  The sun isn't yellow, it's chicken

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                  • #10
                    The Top Fuel is very interersting.
                    I think using a Comp with the Muff helps on stage!

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                    • #11
                      Top Fuel does sound interesting. So did the Mayonaise.

                      I've also heard some clips of certain settings of the Fuzz Factory that I liked (not too into the octave overtone thing though) that sounded like they might be able to cut thru well.

                      I don't know... i'm kinda helping some guys on a project now that probably isn't gonna require much in the way of fuzziness, and I don't know if it'll result in doing any shows or not... grr... indecision.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by iodine74
                        Top Fuel does sound interesting. So did the Mayonaise.

                        I've also heard some clips of certain settings of the Fuzz Factory that I liked (not too into the octave overtone thing though) that sounded like they might be able to cut thru well.

                        I don't know... i'm kinda helping some guys on a project now that probably isn't gonna require much in the way of fuzziness, and I don't know if it'll result in doing any shows or not... grr... indecision.


                        The fuzz factory is pretty cool. I played my friends over the weekend. I liked some of the sounds but it seemed like it is definately not a beginner fuzz. Difficult to control.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hopeless Romantic

                          The fuzz factory is pretty cool. I played my friends over the weekend. I liked some of the sounds but it seemed like it is definately not a beginner fuzz. Difficult to control.
                          Yeah; you really have to have the Fuzz Factory first in your chain, or it's likely to go insane on you (if you feed it a buffered effect, its parameters totally change, and it could do a self-oscillation thing when you don't want it to). What I do with a Fuzz Factory is set it on top of my amp, and plug my guitar into it (then the rest of my chain of course). That way it's up where I can tweek the knobs if--no, when--I have to. The Weezer green album uses a Fuzz Factory for a couple of solos. It cuts and has infinite sustain (or whatever, depending on how you set it up). Also will do overdrive and tone-bendery stuff, not just craziness. Most of the tones seem to have a bit of an edge to them, plus it's usually kinda noisy, so I wouldn't use it as a 'regular' rhythm dirtbox. But it's hands-down the most over-the-top infinite-sustain solo fuzz and very cool at that.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by skr3ddy
                            Yeah; you really have to have the Fuzz Factory first in your chain, or it's likely to go insane on you (if you feed it a buffered effect, its parameters totally change, and it could do a self-oscillation thing when you don't want it to). What I do with a Fuzz Factory is set it on top of my amp, and plug my guitar into it (then the rest of my chain of course). That way it's up where I can tweek the knobs if--no, when--I have to. The Weezer green album uses a Fuzz Factory for a couple of solos. It cuts and has infinite sustain (or whatever, depending on how you set it up). Also will do overdrive and tone-bendery stuff, not just craziness. Most of the tones seem to have a bit of an edge to them, plus it's usually kinda noisy, so I wouldn't use it as a 'regular' rhythm dirtbox. But it's hands-down the most over-the-top infinite-sustain solo fuzz and very cool at that.


                            Yeah, I initially put it behind a Zoom Ultra Fuzz. I then figured out the Zoom wasn't true bypass. After I moved it to the front it was a lot more controllable but still pretty crazy.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hopeless Romantic


                              Yeah, I initially put it behind a Zoom Ultra Fuzz. I then figured out the Zoom wasn't true bypass. After I moved it to the front it was a lot more controllable but still pretty crazy.





                              whoa - a Fuzz Factory in front of a Zoom Ultra Fuzz - that sounds like it would make kittens explode on contact.
                              "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way."
                              --- Bertrand Russell
                              __ _ __ _ __

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                              A&A Myspace

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