Members andrewgil Posted November 16, 2005 Members Share Posted November 16, 2005 subject says it all, warbly effect on the intro, does anyone know what he's using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Boron Posted November 16, 2005 Members Share Posted November 16, 2005 I think it's a Ludwig Phase II Synth. Best of luck finding that one! But I might well be wrong. Are there other mod effects that offer those vocalisation type things, anyone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andrewgil Posted November 16, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2005 I found this in an interview with Lee Ranaldo from Vintageguitar.com: Let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andrewgil Posted November 16, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 16, 2005 Here she is, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Non-Digital Tom Posted November 16, 2005 Members Share Posted November 16, 2005 Wanna see a place that has all that stuff? Click my Gear Shop link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DanyoSound Posted November 16, 2005 Members Share Posted November 16, 2005 I've heard that a MuTron Phaser was used. I saw them on the Washing Machine Tour - one of the greatest shows I've ever seen - and I don't recall a giant podium of a pedal being used. Maybe the MuTron was used for live settings. I've been able to get that sound from some phasers and also from Boss's brown AutoWah thing that has the vowels presets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members converge Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 why isn't anybody cloning that monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoirAbattoir Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 This thread is created every 3 months like clockwork. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sidd Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 awesome song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members airship71 Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by ColorsoundKid This thread is created every 3 months like clockwork. Good luck! He's absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim gueguen Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by converge why isn't anybody cloning that monster? Because some big giant suitcase thing isn't likely to sell in enough numbers to make the R&D worth it. Besides, given when it dates from the circuit design probably needs some impossible to find electronic component like nixie tubes or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DanyoSound Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 On the Electro-Harmonix site there are some samples of the what the Flanger Hoax can do. http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCatalog%2F01%5FNew%5FProducts%2F07%5FThe%5FFlanger%5FHoax%2F11%5FGerry+Leonard If you click on Resonance 1 from the above site, it will give you a sound somewhat like that from the Diamond Sea. Just imagine turning the rate down a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elliott Damage Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 maxon ph-350 will do it. sub decay quasar does it i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clayton explode Posted November 18, 2005 Members Share Posted November 18, 2005 some of the old dod flangers can come close. i think an old dod flanger plus something like the roland phase v might bring you very close. you need like a dual swirl thing going on, making it more vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members converge Posted November 20, 2005 Members Share Posted November 20, 2005 Originally posted by tim gueguen Because some big giant suitcase thing isn't likely to sell in enough numbers to make the R&D worth it. Besides, given when it dates from the circuit design probably needs some impossible to find electronic component like nixie tubes or something. I really doubt it needs to be that big. And as far as parts, you'd be suprised. The vast majority of FX pedals use mundane parts, sometimes the odd BBD IC or other stuff like that. It would take somebody to buy one and dismantle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members doug deeper Posted November 20, 2005 Members Share Posted November 20, 2005 there is a schematic at geofex.comits pretty big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sonaboy Posted November 20, 2005 Members Share Posted November 20, 2005 . you can get that same effect from the Boss Autowah - on the humanizer setting - probably pick the "O" and "E" letter settings, or something similar, with a tremolo circuit behind the auto wah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim gueguen Posted November 21, 2005 Members Share Posted November 21, 2005 Originally posted by converge I really doubt it needs to be that big. But if you don't make it an exact clone you'll have all the anal retentive types whining that it doesn't sound the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fingermush Posted November 21, 2005 Members Share Posted November 21, 2005 Boss NO-2 can do it with a PH-1r in the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fingermush Posted November 29, 2005 Members Share Posted November 29, 2005 http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Ludwig/mini_Phase_II-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4drock Posted August 12, 2007 Members Share Posted August 12, 2007 Does anyone know the Sonic Youth effect on the intro to Diamond Sea? Effects. ... I've heard that a MuTron Phaser was used????? I bought a Mu-Tron Phaser II today, from Rick King @ Guitar Maniacs in Tacoma, Washington. He let me test drive it for the day, along with a Small Stone EH4800 Phase Shifter. I'm Playing a Strat into a whirlwind signal splitter, and then clean into a 69 silverface Fender Bassman. The other signal now runs to the Phaser II, then into a Maxon custom tubescreamer with the silver mod from Analogman.com, and into a 69 Silverface modified to Blackface Twin Reverb. The Small Stone costs $70, and sucks. Mainly because you could hear a flange wave swooshing back and forth. The Mu-Tron Phaser II is the smoothest phase shifter ever. It cost me $300, and sounds Freakin Awesome!!! When I was buying it, Rick told me I'd sound like Sonic Youth using the pedal. So I asked him if he had sold them the same pedal. And he said that he had, to Thurston Moore. He went on to say that when they come to town they like to go to his store, and The Southern Kitchen Restaurant on 6th Ave. Diamond Sea came out in 1995, so I'll have to ask him if he sold it to him prior to that. I listened to the song and it sure sounds like my new pedal. I know that Rick sold Kurt Cobain the effects pedal he used in Come As You Are, so it wouldn't surprise me. I'm stoked to have one. Great pedal! Good luck finding one for $300. You only get that price if you're lucky enough to live near an amazing guitar shop such as this, and it was his last and only one. I didn't see any on Ebay. I found a low-fi Musitronics website that claimed to have a couple of them for sale for $499 a piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted August 12, 2007 Members Share Posted August 12, 2007 Ummm it definitely isn't a mutron. It is definitely a Ludwig Phase II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Urinate Forever Posted August 12, 2007 Members Share Posted August 12, 2007 www.sonicyouth.com go to gearography. everything is there and listed what it's used on. looks like someone even posted the pic im going to post already. it's a ludwig phase II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4drock Posted August 13, 2007 Members Share Posted August 13, 2007 You guys are wrong. I get that exact tone out of The Mu-Tron. And I know the guy who sold Thurston Moore the pedal. I wasn't able to find anything on sonicyouth.com that said a Ludwig Phase II was used to record Diamond Sea in 1994/95. and I checked the gearology extensively. I'm curious, do either of you guys have a Ludwig Phase II to compare to? Because I'd be surprised to hear, that it sounds exactly like a Mu-Tron Phasor II. When you get to the 1800's, be sure to commit suicide... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4drock Posted August 13, 2007 Members Share Posted August 13, 2007 Well that sucks.... How do you post a picture on this server anyway?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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