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  • Jackasses moved the Philly Guitar Show!

    In their infinite wisdom, Bee3Vintage moved the Philly guitar show from the accessable Fort Washington Expo Center to the Greater Reading Expo Center. What does this mean to anybody in the Philadelphia area? Expect to travel further to the show...yet pay the same high admission fee.

    Why are they still calling it the Philly Show? Philadelphia and Reading are quite a bit apart. I could get to Atlantic City in the same time it'd take me to get to Reading from Philadelphia.

    What is the motivation? I'm sure it is a hell of a lot cheaper to host the show in the middle of nowhere. But I doubt this savings is being passed on to the venders and I know it isn't being passed on to the patrons. The cost is still the same 10$.

    Bee3Vintage ought to be ashamed of themselves. They actually charge the venders to have electricity at their booth. How is a vender supposed to sell an amp if you can't even plug it in?

    My response to this? I'm not going to the show. It is too far away and the cost is too high. Everything at the show is so highly marked up anyway. Granted, I've gotten some really good deals there, but that was years ago now. I remember staying at last year's winter show for all of 15 minutes and leaving pissed off that I wasted gas and 10$.

    Hopefully if enough people don't show up, they'll get the hint and move the thing back to the Philadelphia area.

    -Zach Omega

  • #2
    bump ^

    -Zach Omega

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    • #3
      Create your own Philly guitar show...on a day of your choosing hit Neal's Guitars,Medley Music,8th Street,BlueBond,Dipinto's,Dtown in Doylestown-(Rob Martyn's place ,used to be in Lansdale),Tinicum Guitar Barn,that little store in New Hope,,or maybe it was across the river in NJ,Lambertville? ,and best of all Cintioli's in NE Philadelphia.I know I left some places out like that storefront in Germantown,some cool stores in Jersey like the guy that specialises in Ricks,and the big box stores in Cherry Hill.Oh yeah,for acoustics Vintage Instruments on Pine with Antiques Roadshow expert Fred Oster.Plus Mike Hoffman's great CD store on Second north of Market,Sound of Market and the Philly record Exchange for tunes,great food in Chinatown...

      Can you tell I miss Philadelphia?Really sorry I couldn't get up there for the Radio Birdman show.

      I pretty much gave up on guitar shows centuries ago when they had the show at the Ramada Inn near the airport....every dealer quoted me the same offer for a guitar I brought.The vintage guitar business is worse than the used car business.

      Hey,Bensalem...there was a interesting little store there across from the Septa station,didn't last too long.Home of the Ibanez dumpster...
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      • #4
        King of Prussia - convenient.

        Ft. Washington - bit of a hassle.

        Reading - hell with that. That'd be a 90 minute drive for me.
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        • #5
          Simple - don't go
          Originally Posted by terry_nunn


          my goodness, sir, does your douchebaggery know no bounds??

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ZachOmega
            In their infinite wisdom.......Bee3Vintage ought to be ashamed of themselves. They actually charge the venders to have electricity at their booth. How is a vender supposed to sell an amp if you can't even plug it in?.....




            if you want low/no overhead, sell Smokey amps.

            if you wanna sell amps requiring 120v, be prepared to supply some.


            maybe you could tell us more about how things should be run in your perfect little world of free power, and free electricians. i need a good laugh/
            my posts must be read using the voice of Deguello's
            'Manic Mechanic,' or that of Abe Vigoda.


            A+ deals: jimihalen, valvedriventone, fireincairo, kha02a, loosegroove, josh33,
            nbabmf, comfortablynumb, mofx4me, snail killer, arrmatey,
            unkle slam, armoredfist316, 1DZReverendDavidLee,
            freeridstylee, a few more...

            11-2-09 --> meet hbar re: imaginary molecular thingy

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            • #7
              Are you talking about Bob's Route 13 in Bristol/Croydon? Not technically Bensalem, but it seemed like Bob always had not so new Ibanez guitars. I remember he also had a "Fender" Mustang in there one time with the headstock completely sanded clean. Probably a Fender body with a no name neck. Save the neck with the decal for another body and you magically have two vintage Fenders.

              You are right though, there are a lot of really great stores in the area. But I was hoping for some really great things from some of the stores not from my area.

              I've frequently compared vintage dealers to used car salesmen. They always have a pitch and they are always hiding something...mainly the truth.

              -Zach Omega

              Originally posted by mc5nrg
              Create your own Philly guitar show...on a day of your choosing hit Neal's Guitars,Medley Music,8th Street,BlueBond,Dipinto's,Dtown in Doylestown-(Rob Martyn's place ,used to be in Lansdale),Tinicum Guitar Barn,that little store in New Hope,,or maybe it was across the river in NJ,Lambertville? ,and best of all Cintioli's in NE Philadelphia.I know I left some places out like that storefront in Germantown,some cool stores in Jersey like the guy that specialises in Ricks,and the big box stores in Cherry Hill.Oh yeah,for acoustics Vintage Instruments on Pine with Antiques Roadshow expert Fred Oster.Plus Mike Hoffman's great CD store on Second north of Market,Sound of Market and the Philly record Exchange for tunes,great food in Chinatown...

              Can you tell I miss Philadelphia?Really sorry I couldn't get up there for the Radio Birdman show.

              I pretty much gave up on guitar shows centuries ago when they had the show at the Ramada Inn near the airport....every dealer quoted me the same offer for a guitar I brought.The vintage guitar business is worse than the used car business.

              Hey,Bensalem...there was a interesting little store there across from the Septa station,didn't last too long.Home of the Ibanez dumpster...

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              • #8
                Do you ever have anything constructive to say?

                It doesn't take an electrician to run an extension cord...which is exactly what they do. The only thing that has to be done is the cord has to be taped down to prevent somebody from tripping over it.

                And furthermore, it is a guitar show...Amps are part of the business. Just include it as a set fee built into the costs.

                However, I was under the impression that when you rent a hall, that you are renting the use of their utilities too. I can't think of any places that charge you for every kilowatt hour you consume or every time you flush the toilet. It is absurd since the costs of electricity are already built into the costs of renting the venue in the first place.

                -Zach Omega

                Originally posted by L6Sguy




                if you want low/no overhead, sell Smokey amps.

                if you wanna sell amps requiring 120v, be prepared to supply some.


                maybe you could tell us more about how things should be run in your perfect little world of free power, and free electricians. i need a good laugh/

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                • #9
                  In my experience with D-town guitars, the place blows. The stuff they have is amazing, but I've never gotten the impression that Rob knows what he's talking about (not that I do, by any means) Plus, I've had some bad experiences with their maintenance work.

                  Also, while we're making a big list of Philly area music stores- Richboro music.
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                  • #10
                    I think it's a conspiracy created to increase business for the Reading Railroad.....




                    Reading.... Railroad...






                    anyone?






                    is this thing on?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ZachOmega
                      Do you ever have anything constructive to say?

                      It doesn't take an electrician to run an extension cord...which is exactly what they do. The only thing that has to be done is the cord has to be taped down to prevent somebody from tripping over it. ......



                      thats interesting--- a whole guitar show run off a single extension cord.






                      or, perhaps, there may be more to it than just that.







                      my posts must be read using the voice of Deguello's
                      'Manic Mechanic,' or that of Abe Vigoda.


                      A+ deals: jimihalen, valvedriventone, fireincairo, kha02a, loosegroove, josh33,
                      nbabmf, comfortablynumb, mofx4me, snail killer, arrmatey,
                      unkle slam, armoredfist316, 1DZReverendDavidLee,
                      freeridstylee, a few more...

                      11-2-09 --> meet hbar re: imaginary molecular thingy

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by L6Sguy


                        thats interesting--- a whole guitar show run off a single extension cord.






                        or, perhaps, there may be more to it than just that.









                        Usually not, in most large halls they have floor outlets all over the place as they assume that people will want power throughout the area.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sir H C
                          Usually not, in most large halls they have floor outlets all over the place as they assume that people will want power throughout the area.


                          you've obviously never worked the greater-boston/northern NE area. its extremely common to see large exhibition areas/entire halls without a single Edison outlet available.

                          that is, until somebody pays for a drop, at which point Edison outlets are available where ever one is needed.

                          but, it costs something.

                          and if there were outlets everywhere at this show, we'd not have had to have heard about how the free extension cords and free gaff tape were needed.

                          if Show Mgmt has put out the extra $ to make sure that all booths have live power, then all booths get power but its not free, even if the individual vendors dont pay for it.



                          really, when a circuit breaker pops, do you want the guy thats otherwise only in charge of coffee service to be placed in charge of making sure that So&So Bigname GuitarShop gets their electrical back in order?

                          somebody has got to get all the extension cords out. and the power strips. and the taping of lines. and, making sure that theres not 26 booths drawing power from a 15amp circuit. then, all the cords gotta be picked up and recoiled. and invariably, some vendor will have walked with 4 power strips.

                          all that **************** costs money.

                          and good gaff tape aint cheap.
                          my posts must be read using the voice of Deguello's
                          'Manic Mechanic,' or that of Abe Vigoda.


                          A+ deals: jimihalen, valvedriventone, fireincairo, kha02a, loosegroove, josh33,
                          nbabmf, comfortablynumb, mofx4me, snail killer, arrmatey,
                          unkle slam, armoredfist316, 1DZReverendDavidLee,
                          freeridstylee, a few more...

                          11-2-09 --> meet hbar re: imaginary molecular thingy

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                          • #14
                            I might be wrong, but I thought I read that the Ft. Washington Expo Center was shutting down. If you check their website (www.fortwashingtonexpo.com), there are no events listed past June 2006, so maybe there's some truth to this.

                            I've gone to most of the Philly shows for the past six or seven years, and it's about an hour and a half from AC. Not sure if I can tolerate the extra time it'll take to get to Reading. Besides, it's really, really difficult these days to find interesting and affordable stuff at these shows.

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                            • #15
                              I heard that rumor too. But Reading!? That isn't exactly close to Philadelphia.

                              To me, it just comes off as poorly planned. I don't think they even know how it is going to turn out as they have not yet committed to a venue for the next summer show in Philadelphia.

                              -Zach Omega

                              Originally posted by midnight-to-six
                              I might be wrong, but I thought I read that the Ft. Washington Expo Center was shutting down. If you check their website (www.fortwashingtonexpo.com), there are no events listed past June 2006, so maybe there's some truth to this.

                              I've gone to most of the Philly shows for the past six or seven years, and it's about an hour and a half from AC. Not sure if I can tolerate the extra time it'll take to get to Reading. Besides, it's really, really difficult these days to find interesting and affordable stuff at these shows.

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