Members jack harper Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 I'm curious to how close these two fuzzes are and if there are and major differences between the two. Some of these fuzz/octave pedals can sound very similar, mainly because they are all clones of each other I already have an Ultimate octave, would these pedals (Tone Machine & Super Fuzz) sound the same as my fulltone with the octave switch on? Would I be down grading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clementwave Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 a Wattson Superfuzz is an upgrade from anything, I don't care what it is, it's an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 From the Foxx-type and Superfuzz-type fuzzes I've heard, they're pretty different: the Foxx has a far more pronounced octave effect, less chaotic. Superfuzz is more gnarled/effed-up sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty Belle Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Totally different circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jack harper Posted February 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 Totally different circuits. Explain, if you will. I always thought most fuzzes were fuzz face clones, which fuzzes were the originals? have to most different sounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AnderMocs Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 fuzz face circuits are very common but their are many. TonebenderSupafuzzFoxxBig Mufflist goes on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jack harper Posted June 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 I heard that the ultimate octave is a clone of the foxx tone machine. anyone heard this or can deny this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ming Chow Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 I heard that the ultimate octave is a clone of the foxx tone machine. anyone heard this or can deny this? I heard this before. I've never played a Foxx Tone Machine, but my Ultimate Octave rocks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Saturnine10 Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 I have a wattson SF and its freaking awesome!! You gotta roll back the tone knob and use the neck PU for the octave effect to really be noticeable.. Mines not going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taylor. Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 My Wattson GAS burns with greater intensity with each passing day. And I'm not even a fuzz guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 The Foxx can have a really really pronounced octave effect without any pickup or tone tricks to bring it out which is really nice. It can be really cutting or a little mellower depending on how you set things. I like that you dont have to do anything tricky to get it. Just hit the switch and a clear and powerful upper octave is there. The basic fuzz tone is also really awesome and punchy. Lots of gain and volume too. The Superfuzz is also a cool pedal but the octave isn't as pronounced and I have used some that didn't even get to unity volume which made them hard to use for me. Both cool pedals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 i tried a foxx recently and holy canolies that thing is awesome. nitefly's description of both is pretty dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ponda Boba Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 tone machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jack harper Posted June 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 The Byoc Leeds Fuzz is a nice super fuzz clone. I'm a bit of a fuzz freak between my ultimate octave, leeds fuzz, sunface, dano french toast, and bbe free fuzz... just trying to not to buy something that i already have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 The Byoc Leeds Fuzz is a nice super fuzz clone.I'm a bit of a fuzz freak between my ultimate octave, leeds fuzz, sunface, dano french toast, and bbe free fuzz... just trying to not to buy something that i already have Your Ultimate Octave and french toast are both based on the fox tone machine with slight changes to accommodate modern parts. The leeds fuzz is basically a superfuzz and the free fuzz and sunface are both fuzz face clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sethlover Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 The original (and I assume the Wattson clone) Super Fuzz's are really good at getting you nasty "flip you the bird fuzz". Really raw and really nasty. A garage band Holy Bible in a pedal. But that's pretty much it. If you're looking for that it will be your number one. As others have suggested it's octave is so-so. Not extremely pronounced, more so with certain settings. If you want more versatility and more refinement the Super Fuzz is most likely not going to do it for you. If you want to sonically puke on the crowd and them to sonically eat your shit, the Super Fuzz just may be for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 a Wattson Superfuzz is an upgrade from anything, I don't care what it is, it's an upgrade i would agree with this and add that a Wattson Superfuzz is an upgrade from anything, I don't care what it is, it's an upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jorhay1 Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 it's octave is so-so. Not extremely pronounced, sethlover you are the man but i have to say that imho the octave on the watson superfuzz is amazing and not just at the 12th fret with that octavia bloom crap imho the octave on the watson superfuzz is pure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roy Brooks Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 I have a Foxx Tone Machine. It rules. I reckon I ought to try that with my Yamaha YC-20 organ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KRAA!! Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 I've owned a Wattson, an old Foxx Fuzz & Wa & Volume, and now have a Retroman Wolf Tone Machine. As Nitefly said, the Foxx circuit has a more versatile range of sounds. The basic fuzz goes from really mellow to really distorted, like a more fuzzy and less midrangy Big Muff at high settings to an almost fuzz face like sound at low settings. When the "octive" is kicked in the Foxx changes its character completely. Whereas before it was controllable and musical, with the octave it is a wonderful mess anywhere on the neck. The octave is much louder than the direct signal on the neck pickup above the 12th fret. The Wattson is less fuzzy but still beautiful and nasty. Actually I even liked it with the octave dialed out with the internal trim pot, it's sort of like a silicon fuzz face on that setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sethlover Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 sethlover you are the man but i have to say that imho the octave on the watson superfuzz is amazing and not just at the 12th fret with that octavia bloom crap imho the octave on the watson superfuzz is pure No you are the man Jorhay, Really? I've never owned a Watson but have owned a few original Super Fuzz's and never really thought the octave up was their strength. It's cool in it's own right but not mind blowing. Like I would not put it in the same octave up fuzz category with a good Octavia. I've yet to get my hands on a Foxx so I can't comment. The only thing I have found disappointing about the Super Fuzz are the way notes decay. There's a lot of mushy breakup as they fade off and the pedal does the same thing when you try to clean it up rolling back the volume knob. But for full raunchy fuzz? Super Fuzz's are pure bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jack harper Posted June 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 as far as the leeds fuzz goes... depending on how light or agressive your pick attack is the more pronunced the octave effect is, its tricky but depending on how you dial the pedal in you can get some great tasting octave sounds. the ultimate octave sounds to me to be close to the Foxx tone machine. with you hit the octave footswitch there is no mistaking it. anywhere on the neck and with any pickup you get down right smooth octave up tone. but with out the octave switch on, the fuzz can get down right nasty and there is plenty of volume to go around. fun thing to do with the ultimate octave is to turn the fuzz down to a min with the tone around 9 o'clock and enough volume to be a tad over unitly gain, and press the octave footswitch on so its ready to go, then if i went an octave up sound while im playing my sunface, tubescreamer, or blues driver all i have to do is kick on the ultimate octeve and get funkin crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind_Riot89 Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 I've got a Danelectro French Toast and it sounds awesome and very similar to the Foxx Tone Machine clips I've heard online. Worth a look for anyone wanting that sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 that's because it is a foxx tone machine and the same guy designed both I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind_Riot89 Posted June 16, 2009 Members Share Posted June 16, 2009 that's because it is a foxx tone machine and the same guy designed both I believe. I'd read it was a clone but was unsure as to just how much truth there was in this, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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