Members plushpile Posted June 23, 2009 Members Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm thinking about selling off my DD-20 and getting a timebender. Is there any features the DD-20 has that the timebender doesn't? Should I do it? Where's the best place to buy a timebender from in Aus (or to get it shipped here?) Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elxchino Posted June 23, 2009 Members Share Posted June 23, 2009 I've only played with a DD20 a few times and I don't really know what WARP and TWIST does, but I have a Timebender and I like it a lot better. And it does mode 7 and 11 better than the PS-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turiguiliano Posted June 23, 2009 Members Share Posted June 23, 2009 DD20 = easy to use. Cheap. Does the job for most. Timebender = Makes life harder. More expensive. More fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wiklund87 Posted June 23, 2009 Members Share Posted June 23, 2009 never tried them, but the Timebender seem to be i a different league from what I've read and heard from clips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members plushpile Posted June 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Originally Posted by elxchino I've only played with a DD20 a few times and I don't really know what WARP and TWIST does, but I have a Timebender and I like it a lot better. And it does mode 7 and 11 better than the PS-3. Warp is pretty much unusable. It kind of ramps up an oscillation, which sounds kinda in theory, but the oscillation just sounds like a motorbike revving, and it doesn't seem to match the tempo you have punched in.Twist is pretty cool, it just maxes out the repeats while you hold the left footswitch in, but by the look of it it looks like the Timebender does that as well...turiguiliano why is the timebender harder to use than the DD-20, their knobs seem pretty similar (minus the pitch and mod knobs on the timebender).The only other thing i can think of is that the time bender has "only" 5 sec of delay, while the DD-20 has 23. Has anybody actually used more than 5 seconds for delay without looping? And the timebender has a 20 second looper.I'm starting to talk myself into this more and more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OldCrankyDouche Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Just do it. I owned a DD-20 for a while, and while it was nice, it doesnt really compare to the TB. The pitchshifting alone is worth the extra cheese. Expression input (which opens up many more possibilities). http://timebenderdelay.com/ Go there and click some of the sound links. Pretty much shows off the meat of what the TB can do. You could tweak for hours. THere are 4 presets, and I keep finding better sounds to replace them. Ive had mine for 2 months (maybe 3?) and Ive never considered selling it. The only thing I might think about doing is getting a DD-3 or DE7 for a simple delay, and use the TB for JUST pitch delays, tremolo and a bonus looper. Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dap99 Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 I had a DD-20. Cool pedal, great workhorse. Got rid of it when I got my SMMH. Got an RE-20 - great one trick pony (more or less), but I'm thinking of getting rid of that for a Timebender. IMO, whatever learning curve there is for the Timbender is totally worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JMR Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 I really think the timebender is a whole different beast. a better comparison would be be dd20 vs dl4. I use to like the dl4 but I've become more partial to the dd20 now. more control, but not clustered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amarr1 Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 TC Nova is better than the DD-20, rather have that. That being said, I'd rather have a Timebender than a Nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GfxGuru Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 DD-20 is better than the DL4 for sure. Timebender is ahead of both. Nova is good, but not nearly the same feature set as the timebender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members plushpile Posted June 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Originally Posted by Overwhelmed987 use the TB for JUST pitch delays, tremolo and a bonus looper. Tremolo? please explain. Originally Posted by james reuter I really think the timebender is a whole different beast.a better comparison would be be dd20 vs dl4. I use to like the dl4 but I've become more partial to the dd20 now. more control, but not clustered. I had both a DL4 and a DD-20 on my board. The DL4 is gone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GfxGuru Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong Overwhelmed, but I think he is referring to the envelope mode in the TB. You can use it to create very nice tremolo effects. The mix knob controls the depth, while the delay time controls the rate. The fact that you can control the rate with tap tempo or strum tempo is real bonus. You can even use the patterns to create funky far-out tremolos if you want, but I tend to stick with the straight up sinusoidal trem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willburford Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 timebender want. re-20 + de-7 + timebender = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members plushpile Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Originally Posted by GfxGuru Correct me if I'm wrong Overwhelmed, but I think he is referring to the envelope mode in the TB. You can use it to create very nice tremolo effects. The mix knob controls the depth, while the delay time controls the rate. The fact that you can control the rate with tap tempo or strum tempo is real bonus. You can even use the patterns to create funky far-out tremolos if you want, but I tend to stick with the straight up sinusoidal trem. Cool.Sounds like theres much more to this unit than I had thought of at first... GASn hard for one now, will probably pull the trigger soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JMR Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 I'm going to sell my echo park when I get the DD-20. If I'm able to completely pay for my guitar, I'm going to get the dd-20 and new resonant drum heads for my bday. i'm going to use the money from the echo park for a Pedal Train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members legatron Posted July 1, 2009 Members Share Posted July 1, 2009 Originally Posted by Overwhelmed987 Ive had mine for 2 months (maybe 3?) and Ive never considered selling it. The only thing I might think about doing is getting a DD-3 or DE7 for a simple delay, and use the TB for JUST pitch delays, tremolo and a bonus looper. this is exactly what i think about it. it can do delay great sure, but you really want it for the pitch shifting delays. the bad thing about it is it cant do both a delay and a pitch shifted delay at once which is why you need a simple delay also. this is why ive been considering selling mine because is it really worth the extra $$ on top of a boss ps-3 when i pretty much use it for that sole reason? it is much nicer than the ps-3 and a bit more flexible but i dunno if i can justify the price just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbone Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 bump. i have to choose between these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbone Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 I bought the timebender. Same price as the dd20, figure I could flip if I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 DD-20 will outlive a Timebender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 Originally Posted by pbone I bought the timebender. Same price as the dd20, figure I could flip if I don't like. Sweet. Is it getting shipped or do you have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbone Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 Shipped. I'll have it next week, along with my new Ampeg VT60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dZjupp Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 i just got a timebender for xmas, its the tits. i used a dd20 for about 5 years a while back, its the tits too. the timebender has bigger titties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbone Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 how are the pitch shifting things? i thought they sounded cheese balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by dZjupp i just got a timebender for xmas, its the tits. i used a dd20 for about 5 years a while back, its the tits too.the timebender has bigger titties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DylanWilde Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by pbone how are the pitch shifting things? i thought they sounded cheese balls. The pitch shifting sounds pretty much identical to a Whammy or HarmonyMan - I've always assumed they just implemented that circuit into the wet/repeated signal path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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