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  • Headrush vs DL-4 for looping?

    I was all set to get another Headrush, but since these are selling for about
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  • #2
    The DL-4 is hard to use? I actually just got another DL-4 for looping because of the reverse.
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    • #3
      I'm not a fan of the DL-4 initial noisiness when setting loops but I just got it so maybe you can eliminate that, thoughts anyone?
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      • #4
        The DL4 is probably a more useful looper than the Headrush, but it's also a huge gamble. Its gonna break.
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        • #5
          I actually think the DL-4 is easier. I kind of have to think about what I'm doing with the Headrush, whereas with the DL-4 (and also 2880) I just seem to be much more in tune with it.

          I also like that on the DL-4 you can set the initial loop and keep it in record mode for seamless stuff. The Headrush can't stay in record mode when setting the initial loop. ALSO, manipulating the delay controls in real time while the loop is running is crazy fun. I love screwing with oscillating delays over the top of the loop.
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          • #6
            The DL4 is probably a more useful looper than the Headrush, but it's also a huge gamble. Its gonna break.
            I've been through TONS of DL-4's, and not one of them has broken on me. I've actually had 2 separate Headrush E2's that liked to glitch in loop mode, and they were 2 separate glitching issues. One would just lose the loop and stop playing (off and on, it was never consistent), and the current one just straight up doesn't record right. It's like it just randomly ends the loop when you're in record mode.
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            • #7
              Just because yours haven't broken, that doesn't change the fact that a frighteningly high percentage of them do.
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              • #8

                I also like that on the DL-4 you can set the initial loop and keep it in record mode for seamless stuff. The Headrush can't stay in record mode when setting the initial loop. ALSO, manipulating the delay controls in real time while the loop is running is crazy fun. I love screwing with oscillating delays over the top of the loop.


                interesting..

                so with the DL-4 once you get to the end of the loop you can hit 'record' again and go straight into overdubbing, or you can hit 'play' to just have it loop unarmed?
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                • #9
                  I've owned several DL4's, and never had any reliability issues with any of them. I never see what you guys are always on about.

                  And why can't you daisy chain off your fueltank with the DL4? Just get one of the OneSpot L6 adapters.
                  interesting..

                  so with the DL-4 once you get to the end of the loop you can hit 'record' again and go straight into overdubbing, or you can hit 'play' to just have it loop unarmed?

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                  • #10
                    I've owned several DL4's, and never had any reliability issues with any of them. I never see what you guys are always on about.

                    And why can't you daisy chain off your fueltank with the DL4? Just get one of the OneSpot L6 adapters.
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                    the Fuel Tank Jr is 80ma per output and the DL-4 seems to be 1200ma. i'm pretty dedicated to using all 5 outs on the Fuel Tank to cover the rest of my pedals.

                    actually the Headrush is 160ma anyway, so it would need a dedicated supply too.. moot point i guess
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                    • #11
                      the Fuel Tank Jr is 80ma per output and the DL-4 seems to be 1200ma. i'm pretty dedicated to using all 5 outs on the Fuel Tank to cover the rest of my pedals.

                      actually the Headrush is 160ma anyway, so it would need a dedicated supply too.. moot point i guess


                      Is the DL-4 really 1200mA? You wouldn't need a dedicated PS for the Headrush. Just got a current doubler. T-Rex sells some on their site or just cut a daisy chain cable to 3 ends, plug 2 into the outputs on the FTJr and the other one to your pedal.
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                      • #12
                        thanks for this post. i was debating whether i wanted to run 2 dl4's or a dl4 and a headrush. i don't like how muddy the dl4 can get when looping with gain and i was hoping the akai would fix that.
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                        • #13
                          just youtubing a bunch of videos of the Headrush and found something quite interesting..

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                          rather than just using the mix outout for combined dry and looping signals, you can seperate the signals by using the 2nd output to send the looping-only signal off in one direction and keep the dry signal going through the 1st output.

                          This could be very useful for how i want to use the looper (looped signal running through a bunch of ambient effects independant/in parallel to my main signal).. i can't believe a Gearwire video taught me something useful!
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                          • #14
                            DL4 all the way. Also don't know about the Headrush being smaller, it's pretty big. I'd venture to say they occupy the safe square inchage.
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                            • #15
                              For what it's worth, I really like the Headrush for looping.

                              They're reliable and the delay's also sound great.

                              My only problem with the Headrush is that when you overdub, you can't delete the last overdub, you have to delete them all the way back to the original loop.

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