Members woolyh Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 Anyone using one of these in a Strat or Tele? Seems a really good way of getting more tones through changing the pickups to parallel, out of phase and series wiring with a switch. [video=youtube;ZysmjZTfGek] ^skip to 4:25 for the different settings of the switch The installation looks a little complicated with wires everywhere but you only need the S-1 pot and special 5 way selector to do it. Anyone installed one and they work with any single coil pickups right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 yea, i've got one in my 2004 Strat. i don't use it all the time, but its nice to have. i feel like under each pickup selector position, pressing the S1 switch delivers more beef and low end a bit. i use it mostly when i'm playing into an octaver for bass simulation stuff or a microsynth or something. the extra beef it delivers gives it more punch and definition and lets the pedals track the sound better i feel. its also good if you just want to switch to a bassier sound real quick with distortions or something. sometimes good for gilmourish stuff i find as a way to simulate his active pickups without actually having them like i said though, i don't use it all that regularly, just with certain setups. probably wouldnt go through the trouble to wire it myself if my strat didnt come with it, but YMMV thanks for the explanation vid though, i forgot what the s-1 switch actually does in terms of how the pickups are being used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RadioSilence Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 I had a burns marquee with strat configuration of pickups/controls, except one of the tone knobs was a pull-up switch that turned on the neck pickup independently of where the 5-way switch was, meaning you could get bridge+neck, and all three pickups. Once I figured out what the switch did () those positions became my favourite sounds to get out of it. I think the pickups in the burns were in series too, the 2 and 4 positions on that were much less 'thin' than the same positions on fenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boytbpc Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 My strat has the S-1, I use it about 1/3 of the time. It almost gets you to humbucker territory, almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhamnett Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 Five-way switches are for pussies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dZjupp Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 i used to have one, its great for muffling the tone and adding low mids, thats about all it does. i thought it was cool at first but it does not put the thing in humbucker mode, maybe more hollow sounding. its a gimmick is what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhamnett Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 i used to have one, its great for muffling the tone and adding low mids, thats about all it does. i thought it was cool at first but it does not put the thing in humbucker mode, maybe more hollow sounding. its a gimmick is what it is This is a definite problem with some of these switching systems. Two single coils in series will be a lot darker since you're using 250K pots. Think of it like a humbucker with 250K pots, the sound is muffled. An EQ right after your guitar helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 i used to have one, its great for muffling the tone and adding low mids, thats about all it does. i thought it was cool at first but it does not put the thing in humbucker mode, maybe more hollow sounding. its a gimmick is what it is meh. useful for some situations. doesnt change the normal settings on the strat, so why not have it? i doubt the price of the guitar is higher just because of the s1 switch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k tone Posted October 6, 2011 Members Share Posted October 6, 2011 I have one stock in my Deluxe Strat. I like it. It might be a bit of a bitch to install one from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members big69 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 One of my favourite clean sounds is the S1 engaged on position 4 in my deluxe american strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Five-way switches are for pussies Agreed. Dual 4-way is the way to go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johansolo Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 i had the S1 switching and SCN pickups in my am deluxe strat.best thing i ever did IMO was ditch the whole thing and get a set of proper noisy single coils and normal (well semi normal) wiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johansolo Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 and this is the rats nest of wiring that comes with the s1. no thanks...less is more for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tantamo Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 I like it, but all it really usually does is make the noiseless pickups usually associated with S-1 sound closer to actual real strat pickups. But overall the noiseless/s-1 combo sounds pretty cool - a bit sterile and a bit different but fun to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johansolo Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 i found hte scn's to be a god send if you wanted to use high gain without the hum etc,but on clean/mid gain, they had some sort of noise gate quality to the way the notes fade out. not sure if this is in combination to the s1, but i couldnt stand it and much happier withouth them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k tone Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 I like noiseless Strat (Tele) Pups. My house wiring is old and induces lots of noise which annoys the {censored} out of me when I practice. I have plenty of other Strats with trad wiring. The only prob with noiseless Strat pickups is that the in between positions do not have the "quack". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 yea, i rather like the scn's in my american deluxe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I like the sound of SCN's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bluto Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Five-way switches are for pussies Is that the Armstrong Super Strat wiring? I've been dying to try that. What's the red switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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