Members jmcleod816 Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 So I don't even necessarily know what to call it, but I'm sure everyone know's what I'm talking about (or trying to) I would love to have an OD pedal that slowly drives my signal after I click it, for a really dynamic build. For maybe like 2 seconds. Is there a term I could be using to be current, and does it exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 I think what you want is a slow gear (or equivalent) into an overdrive. That or a volume pedal so you can swell at your own pace every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 Hmm, Boss GT series with an 'internal pedal' assigned to drive and activated from the ctl pedal etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nomenclature Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 an OD with an exp. in linked to the gain would do that, albeit manually. I only know of the toneczar pedals having that though, which is $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr.Grumpy Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 DOD Swell Pedal + an overdrive pedal would do this. The swell has to be triggered by your foot, though. For a while, I used mine for a controlled feedback, it worked great because it slowly ramped the gain up as the note was dying out. I sold mine to a forumite who promptly flipped it for a big bucks. Of course the Swell Pedal and Boss Slow Gear are out of production. There's a slow gear clone in kit form out there, and Pigtronix makes the "Attack Sustain" which I know nothing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members H.R. Shove and Stuff Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 Imagine this: An external bypass box where you would hook up an existing pedal (overdrive, etc) into the loop. There would be three controls: level, entrance time and exit time. Level would control the initial blend of the dry signal and the effected signal. When the switch is activated, a microcontroler would turn a digital pot at the speed the entrance control is set at, effectively turning a blend control for you. Exit speed would be the same thing but the time it takes to blend back to the initial setting. I should probably try coding this when I get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PKTrono Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 i remember something about an envelope controlled effects loop, and it having something to do with devianyone know what i'm talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 Depends what you want from it. With GT units you can set the rise time and it will rise regardless of your dynamics and without the need for expression pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 Just put a volume pedal before a dirt... a good dirt that has lots of dynamic range. At a certain volume it will be clean, and as you ramp up the pedal will start to drive. Don't over complicate things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Turd Furgison Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 i remember something about an envelope controlled effects loop, and it having something to do with devianyone know what i'm talking about? are you thinking of the toadworks enveloope maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PKTrono Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 i don't remember it looking like that but it is exactly the type of thing i'm talking about so thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlabbee Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 There was an akai overdrive pedal a few years ago that had a built in expression pedal. Also, with the line 6 m series pedals, you can assign an expression pedal to the drive knob of an overdrive sim. To have it trigger off an envelope, you need some kind of swell pedal approach, like described above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Pigtronix Keymaster with whatever overdrive you want to use patched into one of the loops. You can then use an expression pedal to mix it in at whatever rate you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 interesting! awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nomenclature Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 this could be of use too, I've been pondering picking up one but it's a bit pricy: http://coopersonic.bigcartel.com/product/coopersonic-fader-pedalhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35YalCDhzAI put it after a distortion, put both into a bypass loop w/ blend. set the fader pedal to whatever fade in/out time you want? would actually be cool if they made one with a loop that they fade in/out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 There was an akai overdrive pedal a few years ago that had a built in expression pedal. Also, with the line 6 m series pedals, you can assign an expression pedal to the drive knob of an overdrive sim. To have it trigger off an envelope, you need some kind of swell pedal approach, like described above. Yeah I am selling one actually. The Shredomatic. Anyway, another simple solution (and how I usually do this) is to use a drive pedal that's very pick sensitive and then just soften my pick attack a bit as I kick it on and progressively pick harder and harder. That was one of the goals when designing the Savior Machine od/distortion. Enough pick sensitivity to control actual drive level with your picking dynamics/pickup selection and then a gain knob that more acts to sort of bring the threshold higher or lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Estephan Rodriguez-Torres Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 I'm not 100% what the original poster wants, but those volume fader pedals will bring you in from 0% volume > 100% (assumably). I'm not sure if this dude wants the distorting sound to be fading in from the clean sound, which would be different to this. This would leave a few options. Running clean and distortion parallel, and using a volume to bring in the gain side. A Boss LS-2 with distortion and volume fader/volume pedal in a loop. A Keymaster with distortion in loop w/ exp pedal. Or Dr. Scientist Elements w/ exp pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members big69 Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 Dr. Scientist Elements w/ exp pedal. Came here to say this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caeman Posted July 21, 2012 Members Share Posted July 21, 2012 i remember something about an envelope controlled effects loop, and it having something to do with devianyone know what i'm talking about? Toad Works Enveloope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jmcleod816 Posted July 22, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 22, 2012 Just put a volume pedal before a dirt... a good dirt that has lots of dynamic range. At a certain volume it will be clean, and as you ramp up the pedal will start to drive.Don't over complicate things. This seems most desirable - Could a Volume/Expression pedal effect 100% wet signal of the OD tho? So I wouldn't lose all clean volume with the exp. rocked all the way back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Estephan Rodriguez-Torres Posted July 22, 2012 Members Share Posted July 22, 2012 You can get volume pedals that can set a minimum heel down position. I'd go for one like that. At least then you know that when you rock the treadle all the way back it won't lose all volume completely, but it should be fairly clean still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One Man Banned Posted July 22, 2012 Members Share Posted July 22, 2012 So I don't even necessarily know what to call it, but I'm sure everyone know's what I'm talking about (or trying to) I would love to have an OD pedal that slowly drives my signal after I click it, for a really dynamic build. For maybe like 2 seconds. I'm not sure I understand...it' an overdrive which means it's not very high gain...couldn't you just do that with your pick attack? Pick lighter for clean sound and then gradually dig in to build up the drive? That's what I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One Man Banned Posted July 22, 2012 Members Share Posted July 22, 2012 You can get volume pedals that can set a minimum heel down position. I'd go for one like that. At least then you know that when you rock the treadle all the way back it won't lose all volume completely, but it should be fairly clean still. Yes...this is another good approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members korgi Posted July 22, 2012 Members Share Posted July 22, 2012 doesn't the new loop gate zvex pedal have a function that would do this?... i could be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted July 22, 2012 Members Share Posted July 22, 2012 Seeing as were talking about picking dynamics, I only really feel a benefit if I use an 18 volt mosfet boost. Otherwise I'm quite happy having a compressed tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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