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  • #76
    Honest on-topic question, from a science noob:

    Excuse me the ignorance, but I read that this whole operation costs $2.5 billion, and that the main purpose is to find out wether there is/was/will be life on Mars...Right? So why is that answer worth so much money? I'm assuming most of it is tax payer's money, right? Don't want to start preaching about america's deficit/crisis, and don't want to start a **************** storm with this, I'm not judging or taking sides or whatever...Just genuinly curious (pun not intended) about the official and/or unofficial motif/justification for these space programs, and this Mars adventure in particular. Don't suppose someone could shed a light?

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    • #77
      uh oh

      at the most basic level, we can't stay here forever and at some point will have to leave this planet, which makes any space exploration important.
      beyond that, if we find out mars once had life or even just an atmosphere like ours, we could study what happened there exactly, which would help us understand more about our own global climate.
      i haven't kept up with what this rover is supposed to be doing, so someone that has can probably answer your question more exactly.

      edit: also, the technology developed and the information gathered goes much further than the mission itself.
      most innovations find their beginnings in "unjustified" research.
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      • #78
        It's a part of the human condition to try to find out what is beyond our little realm of Earth. But it's more than that. Besides just sampling and trying to figure out if Mars could sustain life, it's trying to figure out what happened to Mars to where it cannot now. This is also to understand our own world and its possible fate.
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        • #79
          also, nasa is a blip on our spending map. these two wars in stoneageland have cost us enough to land Matt's pitbull on Mars.
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          • #80
            For techinical reasons why Curiosity is on Mars:

            The Mars Science Laboratory mission has four scientific goals:

            -Determine whether Mars could ever have supported life.
            -Study the climate of Mars.
            -Study the geology of Mars.
            -Plan for a human mission to Mars.

            To contribute to these goals, the Curiosity rover has six main scientific objectives:[6][7]

            -Determine the mineralogical composition of the Martian surface and near-surface geological materials.
            -Attempt to detect chemical building blocks of life (biosignatures).
            -Interpret the processes that have formed and modified rocks and soils.
            -Assess long-timescale (i.e., 4-billion-year) Martian atmospheric evolution processes.
            -Determine present state, distribution, and cycling of water and carbon dioxide.
            -Characterize the broad spectrum of surface radiation, including galactic radiation, cosmic radiation, solar proton events and secondary neutrons.


            Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiosity_rover#Goals_and_objectives

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            • #81
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              • #82
                We don't know what the benefits will be. We can't know what the benefits will be. But we know there will be benefits.
                They took the spending for the Apollo missions, and compared it to the value of all the new industries and technologies that were direct spin offs of technology developed to get man to the moon. I can't find the figure right now, but for every dollar spent we (humans) got back millions.

                Go and read this 1970 letter from NASA's Ernst Stuhlinger to a nun who wrote him asking how he could suggest spending billions of dollars on such a project at a time when so many children were starving on Earth.
                He explains it so much more clearly and brilliantly than I could.
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                • #83
                  Honest on-topic question, from a science noob:

                  Excuse me the ignorance, but I read that this whole operation costs $2.5 billion, and that the main purpose is to find out wether there is/was/will be life on Mars...Right? So why is that answer worth so much money? I'm assuming most of it is tax payer's money, right? Don't want to start preaching about america's deficit/crisis, and don't want to start a **************** storm with this, I'm not judging or taking sides or whatever...Just genuinly curious (pun not intended) about the official and/or unofficial motif/justification for these space programs, and this Mars adventure in particular. Don't suppose someone could shed a light?


                  Because it's unbelievably cool.
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                  • #84
                    Because it's unbelievably cool.


                    lol, damn straight, I'll agree on that.

                    Seriously though, the way I see it now: We go to space/mars because it's ****************ing cool, and end up with a ton of useful knowledge that eventually justifies the space program and the following space programs. Thanks radiosilence for that reply/link btw.

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                    • #85
                      Go and read this 1970 letter from NASA's Ernst Stuhlinger to a nun who wrote him asking how he could suggest spending billions of dollars on such a project at a time when so many children were starving on Earth.
                      He explains it so much more clearly and brilliantly than I could.


                      Fantastic.

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                      • #86
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                        • #87
                          f'ing nasa...anybody else think this thread was going to be about the short lived soap opera about a group of gay seamen gone to port?


                          This was worth quoting.
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                          • #88
                            Benefits?


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                            Originally Posted by pasteface


                            I want to Make a sound like on doors where It Gose PPPPPPPRRROWWWWWNNNN like a Bridg falliing Apart and When it Ecchoes

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                            • #89
                              Plus it's awesome.
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                              Originally Posted by pasteface


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                              • #90
                                Didn't NASA invent Whores?
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