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  • Where Do Instruments Sit In The Mix?

    OK so when recording I assume the lead instrument would be centered, but what about the other elements? Drums? Bass Synth PAd or chords?

    Left Right or Centered?
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    center everything, mono everything. aim for depth, not width.

    also, what style of music?

    drums in the back
    snare in the face
    kick in the gut

    vocals in the front
    guitars and bass in the middle.
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    • #3
      center everything, mono everything. aim for depth, not width.

      also, what style of music?

      drums in the back
      snare in the face
      kick in the gut

      vocals in the front
      guitars and bass in the middle.


      +1

      depends on the style of music.
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      • #4
        It's completely up to you, there are no rules except ones you impose on yourself. If you listen to Radiohead's early albums they conform to the 'thom yorke's head' formula; thom's guitar & vocals, and the drums and bass are centered, with whatever johnny's doing panned left and whatever ed's doing panned right. It's a nice and simple way of quickly getting a mix that approximates the live sound.
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        • #5
          I like to mix it up a little:

          drums underneath
          guitar on top
          bass over here
          vocals inside
          flute over there
          banjo outside
          electric everywhere
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          • #6
            I am in the same boat, a giant confusing boat. There is a pretty big difference between scooping speaker blowing peaks on off-the-cuff [read as noise in my case] **************** one records and actually trying to make a good mix with good practices and such. Listen to your favorite records and analyze what is really happening then try to emulate it. A-B listening is very revealing on stereo recordings.

            I suck royally but have gotten a better understanding of the way this stuff works with critical listening.

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            • #7
              when i do mixes (which is rarely) i like to try to approximate a live sound. i like panning guitars left and right, vocals more or lesss center, bass center right or left, drums in a wide ish stereo field.
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              • #8
                They sit wherever you damn well want them to sit. YOU HAVE CONTROL.
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                • #9
                  Usually, I do it this way:

                  Bass Center
                  Lead Vocals Center
                  Backing Vocals panned slightly l/r if present
                  Guitars Panned Slightly L and R if more than one track is present
                  Drums everywhere.
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                  • #10
                    I am working on rock with a blues base... OD rythmn guitars, bit o synth, bass, drums from Superior Drummer, and a singing lead.

                    Then I would next ask how to get them to sit where you want other than left and right...?
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                    • #11
                      Usually, I do it this way:

                      Bass Center
                      Lead Vocals Center
                      Backing Vocals panned slightly l/r if present
                      Guitars Panned Slightly L and R if more than one track is present
                      Drums everywhere.


                      I use this, sometimes vocals a little off center.

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                      • #12
                        Depth (front to back) and width (L/R) are two different mix parameters. You can have a very deep recording with no width (or lots of it), or a very wide (or narrow) recording with no depth. Depth does tend to be more difficult for novice mixers to achieve, but that doesn't mean that stereo imaging and panning are any less important...
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                        • #13
                          How does one get depth?
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                          • #14
                            Meh, whatever works.
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                            • #15
                              How does one get depth?


                              Manipulating levels and eq, usually.
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