Members Naterel Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 What ever happened to DIY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arthurdent'd Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 ugh, sigh and harumpf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 It's just one of those things that happen in a world where music isn't really valued... even by the people who made it. It's not a route I'd ever want to go down when it comes to music. Sure, if you've got a solid financial plan for an enterprise that has a hope of turning some profit, up front investment is a good idea. But a kickstarter to make some music? It's like a strange blend of holding your own talent to ransom, and begging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 echod'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrChrisos Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 If you take you're band seriously you'll seek a number of funding routes to raise capital, including your own pocket. If that's the ONLY thing they're doing, well - sticking feathers up your arse does not make you a chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zinzin Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 i rather play live and get paid and save that money for recording than begging on kickstarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BHz_econo Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Get a job you lazy bums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 i rather play live and get paid Ah, you'd rather play live in the past then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 We get paid at every show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 We get paid at every show Well done. I'd be interested to know what sort of places you play, how many people you bring and how much you get paid. And I guess what blend of music you're playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 it's weird because all you really need these days is a laptop and some instruments to get your music out. after that, one would think you could either sink or swim based on the results. but then, I went to art school and I know wannabe artists come up with all kinds of excuses. "well if we recorded in a studio or had better gear, we'd make better music or people would take us more seriously." or "we can't make a profit because everyone is file sharing and stealing the music of bands no one has ever heard of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 dollar cars Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 amanda palmer apparently needed over a million dollars to record whatever piece of {censored} she wanted to put out. established acts using kickstarter yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrChrisos Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well done. I'd be interested to know what sort of places you play, how many people you bring and how much you get paid. And I guess what blend of music you're playing. I don't know how Loobs does it, but I'd suggest approaching bookings agents. They don't generally get discussed when this topic comes up. You can get between Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eti Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 amanda palmer apparently needed over a million dollars to record whatever piece of {censored} she wanted to put out. established acts using kickstarter yay! And apparently she can't afford a backup band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 dollar cars Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 And apparently she can't afford a backup band. that's just fandamntastic. i guess if you're putting 5000 bucks up your nose every couple days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zinzin Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Ah, you'd rather play live in the past then? we always get paid. otherwise we don't play. it's not much and depends, but if you play for free than you leave the impression that you are worth nothing. so we won't play for free. but yeah, it's getting harder this days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t_e_l_e Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 it's weird because all you really need these days is a laptop and some instruments to get your music out. after that, one would think you could either sink or swim based on the results. but then, I went to art school and I know wannabe artists come up with all kinds of excuses. "well if we recorded in a studio or had better gear, we'd make better music or people would take us more seriously." or "we can't make a profit because everyone is file sharing and stealing the music of bands no one has ever heard of." yes a laptop, an interface, some mics&cables and a DAW software are enough tools to get your music out.but those are the tools. you also need the experience and the knowledge to use these tools correctly. so either you have a lot of time and are willing to learn or you find someone who could do it for you. finding someone who can do recoding, mixing, mastering or even also some production work will cost, unless you find some newbie who will do his learning curve while working with your band.if you want to have pro's working on your music you also need to pay pro money for it. the benefit you get is pro output and you can estimate somehow how long it will take to get things done and plan further steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrChrisos Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 And apparently she can't afford a backup band. This makes a small cloud form above my head. Pay your musicians, or have no musicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imbuedblue Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Ah, you'd rather play live in the past then? It is a lot harder to make money playing live these days, but I don't leave the house unless I'm getting paid. Drawing up contracts and upfront professionalism helps. I've had bar/club owners throw the money at me while yelling "this is the worst $xxx I've ever spent" but that hasn't happened in a few years. One of the bands I'm in now is known for clearing rooms, but even we get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 finding someone who can do recoding, mixing, mastering or even also some production work will cost, unless you find some newbie who will do his learning curve while working with your band.if you want to have pro's working on your music you also need to pay pro money for it. the benefit you get is pro output and you can estimate somehow how long it will take to get things done and plan further steps but if you haven't recorded a simple demo and generated any fan following and revenue from that, then why worry about getting professionals to record your music? It seems like alot of bands put the cart before the horse. You don't really need to do a pro recording right off the bat, and with the tools these days, you can get alot closer to a pro recording by yourself in a basement with just some cheap gear and a laptop than you could in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members christianatl Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 You guys know Natty is stirring the pot for sport, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted September 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Bloodsport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nomenclature Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 I don't see the problem with bands raising money through kickstarter to put out an album. labels and bands do preorders all the time, preorder the record months in advance, get it some time in the future. this is the same {censored}, but bands can offer other packages and people can kick in more money than needed if they want. if it was someone wanting to get money to buy gear and start from scratch, {censored} that. that's like those "artists" saying "I need $50k so I can document my web trolling on my blog full time!" (really. I've seen it). but for an established band without a label, what's wrong with doing preorders for albums and shows like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blakemore Effects Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 You guys know Natty is stirring the pot for sport, right? That doesn't sound like the Natty I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members houseofglass21 Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 I would do it if I knew a {censored} ton of money could be raised. Then I would pocket it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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