Members TravvyBear Posted November 10, 2012 Members Share Posted November 10, 2012 Can it be done? My wiring is a little messed up, so when I get a new bridge pup, I was gonna rewire it. I don't have a switch, so could I just wire it like I would a Jazz Bass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theboywho Posted November 10, 2012 Members Share Posted November 10, 2012 No reason why you couldn't. GFS make blank control plates if you wanted to drill one out. My tele has a LP switch and a kill switch made from one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pine Apple Slim Posted November 10, 2012 Members Share Posted November 10, 2012 Thats a pretty good idea IMO. I rarely use just one pickup anyway, am usually blending the 2. A hangover from my Gibson days I guess. I still prefer 2 vols and 2 tones, wish Fender and Gretsch did it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RadioSilence Posted November 10, 2012 Members Share Posted November 10, 2012 I always wanted to wire my jazz bass so it has a master volume, a knob to pan between the pickups (with a notch in the centre of the sweep) and a regular tone. Never got round to it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted November 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 10, 2012 Originally Posted by RadioSilence I always wanted to wire my jazz bass so it has a master volume, a knob to pan between the pickups (with a notch in the centre of the sweep) and a regular tone. Never got round to it though I've seen that schematic floating round the net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 There's no reason why you can't wire a Tele like a J-Bass. Just use Tele pups, and follow a modern passive J-Bass wiring diagram. Ditch the Tele switch, add a second 250k volume pot, with each pickup routed to a separate volume. Add a master tone, and you're all set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted November 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 10, 2012 Originally Posted by Phil O'Keefe There's no reason why you can't wire a Tele like a J-Bass. Just use Tele pups, and follow a modern passive J-Bass wiring diagram. Ditch the Tele switch, add a second 250k volume pot, with each pickup routed to a separate volume. Add a master tone, and you're all set. Sounds exactly like what I want.Now go listen to those mixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted November 10, 2012 Members Share Posted November 10, 2012 Well keep in mind you will actually be cutting the value of whatever pot you have in there for volume in half effectively if you add a second one in parallel. You might want to move to 300k or 500k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted November 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 10, 2012 Originally Posted by V Well keep in mind you will actually be cutting the value of whatever pot you have in there for volume in half effectively if you add a second one in parallel. You might want to move to 300k or 500k Oh, thats interesting. I was gonna do 500k on the humbucker and 250k on the bridge pup, maybe I should bump up those values? I didn't realize I would be cutting them in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Texas Noise Factory Posted November 11, 2012 Members Share Posted November 11, 2012 I'd rather have the original jazz wiring with concentric pots and a pickup switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted November 11, 2012 Members Share Posted November 11, 2012 Yeah think of it this way. One path with resistance of 500k to ground. 2 paths with the same resistance to ground. The resistance is cut in half because there are now two paths. Same as if you had two pipes of the same diameter vs 1 and water was flowing through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spentron Posted November 11, 2012 Members Share Posted November 11, 2012 I don't like jazz bass wiring much even for a jazz bass. Remember that they will buzz and hiss a bit with the volume all the way down, kind of like as if you pulled the plug since it's only got the hot leads of the pots across the cable instead of a short, which could be noticable with gain. Also the single tone control is wired across the mix output rather than directly to the pickups or switch before the volume so it acts different too. Low volume settings also load down the high end of the pickup(s). Big compromise for simplicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roy Brooks Posted November 11, 2012 Members Share Posted November 11, 2012 Originally Posted by Pine Apple Slim Thats a pretty good idea IMO.I rarely use just one pickup anyway, am usually blending the 2.A hangover from my Gibson days I guess.I still prefer 2 vols and 2 tones, wish Fender and Gretsch did it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lefort_1 Posted November 11, 2012 Members Share Posted November 11, 2012 hey Roy. Good answer, btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pine Apple Slim Posted November 11, 2012 Members Share Posted November 11, 2012 Originally Posted by Roy Brooks Nice Gretsch Roy!You still got that master vol on there tho. The one on my 5120 I have trouble getting along with. Prob just needs to be upgraded or I understand there's some kind of treble bleed mod you can do.But still it seems like overkill to me. I'd just be more comfortable with one less knob. Maybe I've just spent too many yrs playing Gibson style layouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Urinate Forever Posted November 11, 2012 Members Share Posted November 11, 2012 didnt u make this thread like 4 months ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITROHOLIC Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 then wire in a muff tone stack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ancient Mariner Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 It's the same wiring as a Godin Radiator. Seems funky right up until you need a quick tone change mid-song or use a different tone each song, at which point it becomes irritating. Works OK for bass players because most just pick one tone and stick with it for an entire set. When I started playing bass I asked the question on a bass forum about putting a switch in for pickup selection and got asked "why would anyone do that?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 Originally Posted by NITROHOLIC then wire in a muff tone stack Oh, hello volume loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 Originally Posted by NITROHOLIC then wire in a muff tone stack Oh, hello volume loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted November 18, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 Oh, hello volume loss. I'm actually a set and forget kinda guy, so I think this will be awesome. I'm a rhythm player. I just need that nice semi crunch jangle and I'm set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ancient Mariner Posted November 18, 2012 Members Share Posted November 18, 2012 Sounds ideal then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 It's the same wiring as a Godin Radiator. Seems funky right up until you need a quick tone change mid-song or use a different tone each song, at which point it becomes irritating. Works OK for bass players because most just pick one tone and stick with it for an entire set. When I started playing bass I asked the question on a bass forum about putting a switch in for pickup selection and got asked "why would anyone do that?". Another VERY good point. I wouldn't want to run without a pickup switch - at least not on the guitar. On bass, it's less of an issue for exactly the reason you mentioned. While I tend to switch tones a bit more often than "once per set", it's easy enough to dial up what I need from song to song. Mid-song changes are less common, but my main bass has active electronics and a bit more flexible controls than what a J or P bass has, so even if I want to change something as I'm playing, it isn't hard to do. Still, a switch would make it easier to go from one sound to another quickly, and I'm surprised more basses don't feature them. OTOH, many have pickup blend knobs, which can serve a similar purpose, but with added mix flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Texas Noise Factory Posted November 19, 2012 Members Share Posted November 19, 2012 ^ that's what I'm talkin bout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TravvyBear Posted November 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2012 I wouldn't need to go from one sound to another quickly. Mostly just a set and forget strum the {censored} out of. Good info in here. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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