Members enroper Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hope this is on topic, though it may have multiple solutions...I'm trying to get the AC30 vox-ish clean, almost about to break up if you strum hard, but clean otherwise sound. Dynamic, is how I would put it. Not really needing the big overdrive sounds people like. Catch is, trying to do this on a budget.I got my eye on the Sansamp Liverpool, but it's pricey.Also looked online at the Joyo AC Tone, but haven't seen much on how it sounds clean / slighty overdrivenI'm not ruling out low price amp simulators ( I'm recording direct anyway ).Also, i guess a vox pathfinder is only like $100.Anybody have any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reaganomics! Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Catalinbread CB30/Galileo is another one to keep in mind, but as much as I hate to be a downer that sound seems like such an impossible thing to capture with a pedal into a computer so I'd say go with the Joyo and not sweat it too much since you're just hoping to 'ballpark' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yorgatron Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 about $250-300 but sometimes less.get the 2 x 12" version, the cooling grates are bigger than the 1 x 12" version.yes, I know it's ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Call me crazy but I always found a treble booster with guitar tone turned down gets me into vox territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enroper Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by Reaganomics! Catalinbread CB30/Galileo is another one to keep in mind, but as much as I hate to be a downer that sound seems like such an impossible thing to capture with a pedal into a computer so I'd say go with the Joyo and not sweat it too much since you're just hoping to 'ballpark' it. that Catalinbread CB30 looks interesting. It's the first one to address 'touch sensitivity' which is the term I was looking for. Not sure if the joyo or the liverpool are responsive like that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reaganomics! Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'd actually get the Galileo over the CB30. It's actually a CB30 with a Naga Viper treble boost added in. Only $20 bucks extra for a whole lot more pedal, and if you have an AC30 sound you're gonna want to hit it with a treble booster at some point anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 What's the budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enroper Posted November 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Originally Posted by TomVanDeven What's the budget? Under 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evets618 Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Liverpool. No contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members plawren53202 Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 Former owner of the Crate Palomino/V18 pictured above, current owner of an AC30 and a Tech 21 Liverpool. I really loved the Palomino, but it was not exactly an AC30 tone. Similar, and a great amp in its own right, but not quite an AC30. Now, I can't speak highly enough about the Liverpool. It's not an AC30, either, but for an amp simulator/pedal it is darn close. I have tried several of the POD series and IMHO the Liverpool comes way closer to an AC30 than any of the AC30 models in the PODs. In fact, after buying a Liverpool a couple of years ago, just for sport, I liked it well enough to keep around in case my amp ever had any problems. That just so happened to be the case over the weekend (it is blowing fuses, not caused by bad power or pre-amp tubes). I used the Liverpool after my regular pedalboard, just like an amp, direct into the house at church this weekend. A fellow band member who was not in the lineup this week, and is an opinion I trust on tone issues, came up to me afterward going on and on about how he could not believe that I was playing through the Liverpool rather than my amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ancient Mariner Posted November 26, 2012 Members Share Posted November 26, 2012 The equivalent Joyo is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrisjnyc Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 Liverpool or the Zoom G3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mchad Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 Get the Joyo anyway. Ridickulous cheap. I like mine. Add a compressor maybe. And maybe an EQ or a sophisticated treble booster with more controls. The Voodoo Labs Giggity? Catalinbread Naga Viper? That AC30 break up tone is hard enough to get with an amp let alone a pedal(s). But man....what a sound! I got close with a Peavey Delta Blues 1X15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LSDis4me Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 I have the Joyo and its great. Got it for 50% off of the Mooer Code deal at Marc Mart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reaganomics! Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 Originally Posted by plawren53202 (it is blowing fuses, not caused by bad power or pre-amp tubes). Are you sure? Did you do the trick where you pull the tubes out and turn it on?My AC30 was blowing fuses and I thought for sure it couldn't be the tubes because I had just bought them. Turns out I got a dud/shorted out one. I put some old tubes in and stopped using the standby switch (I guess that causes problems for tubes on AC30s?) and all is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members enroper Posted November 27, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 I think the intro to this song is pretty much the defacto standard of the tone i'm craving.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo6lKQYVUBU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Originally Posted by enroper that Catalinbread CB30 looks interesting. It's the first one to address 'touch sensitivity' which is the term I was looking for. Not sure if the joyo or the liverpool are responsive like that.. I have not tried the CB30 in-depth, but Catalinbread tends to make dynamic pedals that are touch sensitive and sound great though. The Tech 21 Liverpool, which I have reviewed ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 Originally Posted by enroper Also looked online at the Joyo AC Tone, but haven't seen much on how it sounds clean / slighty overdriven It sounds good - pretty similar to the sansamp, only downside is it's noisier. there are comparison clips out there. IIRC it doesn't have the speaker simulation so sounds best into an amp whereas the sansamp sounds good into basically anything. Originally Posted by plawren53202 it is blowing fuses, not caused by bad power or pre-amp tubes Which model is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akapuli Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 Vox AC4. I don't believe in pedals for Vox tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'm not convinced I believe in the AC4 for AC30 tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amnesiac Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 I am convinced that the AC4 will not get you AC30 tones but I would not expect it to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Trick Fall Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 I can't speak for the Liverpool, but the Tech 21 Leeds is the best amp sim I've used so far and it responds well to pedals in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t_e_l_e Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 i believe a vox ac4 blue would deliver ac30 tones at low volume, but it does not have the 1/4w, 1w, 4w switch and it only comes with a 10" speaker and with over 300$ way out of budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members plawren53202 Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Cirrus Which model is it? It's the CC2. I know the whole crazy routine about the standby switch and never use that. I took it to the shop; after I swapped out the pre and power amp tubes and it still blew fuses, I just didn't have time to mess with it. My tinkering skills go only so far and then, for me, it's time to let the pros take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reaganomics! Posted November 27, 2012 Members Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'd bet that you had a power tube go and it fried a screen resistor which is a simple fix. Worst case scenario a transformer went bad and you're in for an expensive repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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