Members Prehistoricpain Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 So I had a friend/customer come to me with the need for a new dirt pedal for his bass rig. Now, I'm not all that polished up on my bass tone knowledge, so I tried a few designs, a bazz fuzz deluxe with clean blend, a muff, and then under a tip from a few forumites, I decided to try a rat. :love: I made the input and output caps just a tad bigger, and dear sweet baby jesus, the rat is better on bass than it is on guitar! cuts very well in a mix, and sounds nice and thick and fuzzy. :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Urinate Forever Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 sounded like robots to me. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starmansam Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 I love the attack. its just so pronounced and rest of the tone that follows is big and buzzy and nasty and awesome, so thats great, but as far as a mix cuttin' pedal for bass, thats a great way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lolque? Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 a bass played through a turbo rat is a beautiful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 the Turbo Rat is in my bass rig and i love it. I don't know about you guys but the lack of bottom end they have is ridiculous, I use an eq with mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Texas Noise Factory Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 I had Blake from Blakemore Effects make me a Rat Clone that was specifically designed to be used with bass. I wanted better control over the eq, and a mixable clean signal. What he ended up making for me was a Rat copy that would do Rat and TurboRat specs plus a clean blend with and a bass and treble eq instead of the low pass filter on the OG Rat. Also, it has a fadeable Reutz mod. It's an awesome sounding pedal, as good as my rusting old 80's small box Rat that he used to tune it with. With the mixable clean blend, it's a monster for bass! Pic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 I had Blake from Blakemore Effects make me a Rat Clone that was specifically designed to be used with bass. I wanted better control over the eq, and a mixable clean signal. What he ended up making for me was a Rat copy that would do Rat and TurboRat specs plus a clean blend with and a bass and treble eq instead of the low pass filter on the OG Rat. Also, it has a fadeable Reutz mod. It's an awesome sounding pedal, as good as my rusting old 80's small box Rat that he used to tune it with. With the mixable clean blend, it's a monster for bass! Pic! wow, that takes care of that, nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members conky Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 I used a Rat when I played bass and it sounded so huge, especially in a 3 piece. I never noticed any loss of low end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Texas Noise Factory Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 wow, that takes care of that, nice Thanks! I'm sure his ROUS could be pretty easily modded to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faldoe Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Bassist in Young Widows uses a rat. As does Justin from Tool and the Failure guys did too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hotmess Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 I was actually going to come in here and say that a clean blend for the Rat would be easy and make it awesome for bass. Blakemore beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prehistoricpain Posted November 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Just finished a vero layout for the MOAR, I'll have a prototype built up and a video posted before x-mas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Amigo Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 this interests me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hotmess Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'd say play with the filter a bit while you're at it. Clean blend should be super easy if you want to do that too. If you use a dual op amp, you can do one for the Rat and one for the blend, and really not have it cost you a ton of space. Vr should be 4.5 volts, I think, so just make a simple voltage divider, and you're good to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Beyer160 Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 I used a Rat when I played bass and it sounded so huge, especially in a 3 piece. I never noticed any loss of low end. The Ruetz mod solves that problem nicely, and it's really easy to do. Been using an '80s Rat in my bass rig for 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prehistoricpain Posted December 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Maybe this is heresy, but I never liked the ruetz mod on my rats. If I wanted a subtle overdrive, I wouldn't be buying a rat! The MOAR will have a clean blend, variable input cap blend, and switchable clipping options. I'm really having a hard time seeing why the lm308 gets the status is does, the 3130 sounds exactly the same after some adjustments, and has less noise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Beyer160 Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Maybe this is heresy, but I never liked the ruetz mod on my rats. If I wanted a subtle overdrive, I wouldn't be buying a rat! I wouldn't call my Ruetz Rat "subtle" at all- it's still got that nasty, ratty (so to speak) sound we all love, just with bottom end and a little less gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members .homewrecker. Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Hate the rat on bass, but thought I'd drop this here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Maybe this is heresy, but I never liked the ruetz mod on my rats. If I wanted a subtle overdrive, I wouldn't be buying a rat! The MOAR will have a clean blend, variable input cap blend, and switchable clipping options. I'm really having a hard time seeing why the lm308 gets the status is does, the 3130 sounds exactly the same after some adjustments, and has less noise! I'm the opposite, I don't like it's saturated sound. I use it to add some presence and grit, it leaves the midrange open and doesn't cloud it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jw10 Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Rat 2 is stupid Deal of the day btw for $50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Urinate Forever Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Rat 2 is stupid Deal of the day btw for $50 great deal, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITROHOLIC Posted December 2, 2012 Members Share Posted December 2, 2012 this is the correct rat clone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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