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  • Recording question. Looking at new mics.

    So, I got some Christmas cash yesterday that I'm looking to spend on some new mics. I have plenty of dynamic mics (57, i5, e609), and I have some cheap condensers. What would you guys do? Better large diaphragm condenser, or a ribbon mic?



    I had been looking into the Cascade Fathead. I like the idea of their stereo pair for blumlein recording, but I can't help but wonder if I really only need one ribbon mic. How often would it really be necessary to have a stereo pair of ribbon mics if I normally only record vocals, and electric guitars, and acoustic guitars, and I record those at separate times? I'm assuming pretty much only for acoustic, or if I wanted to track two amps at once.



    And I'm open to suggestions on condensers. I don't have anything right now that I really like for vocals. After typing this out I'm starting to wonder if I should just buy one Cascade Fathead, and a new condenser instead of worrying about getting a pair of Fatheads.



    In any case, I'm not really sure what my budget is. I don't want to spend like $800 on a mic, but I don't think $200-300 is out of line at all. I could bump it up a bit, if there is a good reason. Just don't tell me to buy a Royer or something. That's not happening. Haha



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  • #2
    I use a Rode NT1-a for all kinds of stuff. Great on vocals, great on acoustic guitar.

    A lot of times for a pair of mics on guitar, we'll use the Rode NT1-a and a Shure SM-81 (SDC) - sounds fantastic!

    I'd recommend the Rode.
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    • #3
      I use a Rode NT1-a for all kinds of stuff. Great on vocals, great on acoustic guitar.

      A lot of times for a pair of mics on guitar, we'll use the Rode NT1-a and a Shure SM-81 (SDC) - sounds fantastic!

      I'd recommend the Rode.
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      • #4
        i own an SM7b and it has been fantastic on everything i've used it on (guitar, vocals, drums, room, sax, recorder(?), various random things/etc.)



        it's a dynamic ($349), but you asked for our favourites so i gave you mine!
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        • #5
          i own an SM7b and it has been fantastic on everything i've used it on (guitar, vocals, drums, room, sax, recorder(?), various random things/etc.)



          it's a dynamic ($349), but you asked for our favourites so i gave you mine!
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          • #6
            The Fathead II's are really nice microphones - big performance for little dosh, relatively speaking. I have no problem with recommending them. As far as needing a pair of them, in your situation, you probably don't. Yes, it would probably be nice for stereo recording, but outside of the acoustic, or blending two amps, I don't see you needing to do that very often - if you recorded drums on a regular basis, or foresaw that as a potential future need, then I'd suggest getting a stereo pair. If not, you're probably better off increasing your options, which means one condenser, and one ribbon.
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            • #7
              The Fathead II's are really nice microphones - big performance for little dosh, relatively speaking. I have no problem with recommending them. As far as needing a pair of them, in your situation, you probably don't. Yes, it would probably be nice for stereo recording, but outside of the acoustic, or blending two amps, I don't see you needing to do that very often - if you recorded drums on a regular basis, or foresaw that as a potential future need, then I'd suggest getting a stereo pair. If not, you're probably better off increasing your options, which means one condenser, and one ribbon.
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              "It shouldn't be expected that people are necessarily doing what they appear to be doing on records."

              - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

              "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

              - Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter

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              • #8
                I have been very happy with my AKG C3000 for nearly 10 years now. It's great for recording nearly everything, and very affordable at $299. Best home studio investment I have made.



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                • #9
                  I have been very happy with my AKG C3000 for nearly 10 years now. It's great for recording nearly everything, and very affordable at $299. Best home studio investment I have made.



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                  • #10
                    A large condenser in general is always a good choice when doubled up with a dynamic.

                    There are tons of good ones. I have and ADK A51 which is like a poor man's U87. The Cascade Fathead stuff is great.



                    What would you be using these for?

                    The pair of ribbon mics work great as overhead/room mics for drums but no need for 2 if you are just going to record guitars.



                    I like the audio technica stuff as well (the AT4040 is good) but there are TONS of great mics out there.
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                    • #11
                      A large condenser in general is always a good choice when doubled up with a dynamic.

                      There are tons of good ones. I have and ADK A51 which is like a poor man's U87. The Cascade Fathead stuff is great.



                      What would you be using these for?

                      The pair of ribbon mics work great as overhead/room mics for drums but no need for 2 if you are just going to record guitars.



                      I like the audio technica stuff as well (the AT4040 is good) but there are TONS of great mics out there.
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                      • #12
                        I use a blumlein pair of fatheads a lot, myself, and really it does sound much much better. You don't need multiple sound sources to get a lot of benefit from having a stereo setup. I usually just set them both in front of one cab, adjust to taste, and get a much more accurate translation of the actual amp/cab's sound that way.



                        I'd actually almost be interested in a second pair for stereo amp miking.
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                        • #13
                          I use a blumlein pair of fatheads a lot, myself, and really it does sound much much better. You don't need multiple sound sources to get a lot of benefit from having a stereo setup. I usually just set them both in front of one cab, adjust to taste, and get a much more accurate translation of the actual amp/cab's sound that way.



                          I'd actually almost be interested in a second pair for stereo amp miking.
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                          • #14
                            My current mic setup goes like this:



                            Vocals: EHX EH-R1 Ribbon mic > Cloudlifter Z > EHX 12AY7 Tube Mic Pre



                            Acoustic: RODE NTK Tube Condenser mic > EHX 12AY7 Tube Mic Pre



                            Amps: Shure SM57 > EHX 12AY7 Tube Mic Pre

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                            • #15
                              My current mic setup goes like this:



                              Vocals: EHX EH-R1 Ribbon mic > Cloudlifter Z > EHX 12AY7 Tube Mic Pre



                              Acoustic: RODE NTK Tube Condenser mic > EHX 12AY7 Tube Mic Pre



                              Amps: Shure SM57 > EHX 12AY7 Tube Mic Pre

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