Members butterknucket Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 Which do you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKD Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 EH = too bright/trebly for my taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kelly Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 Sovtek LPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members killswitch_19 Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 EH are good in the right application. I find them very bright and thin in the wrong application. I find JJ's thicker and more musical. That's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pan Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 Originally posted by JKD EH = too bright/trebly for my taste +1 They sound fizzy in my Cobra. They will be replaced with jjs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve Drojo Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 I like JJs too. But some folks hate 'em:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 I've never been happy with JJ preamp tubes. I like the E-H a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Randy Van Sykes Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 It depends on what amp they are going in...In general I prefer EH's in high gain amps and JJ's in lower gain amps...but not always...I'd just try both and listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 It always depends on the amp but in Peavey amps I love JJ's. Some amps i'm sure they are way too dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KCA NOS Tubes Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 Depends on the amp and speakers, but if I had to pick one, it would be the EH. Ruby STR 7025s rule though (for new production tubes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricMayhem Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 I liked Ehs for a while. They could add some brightness and crunch to wimpy circuits, but they are so sterile. They aren't what I would describe as organic sounding at all. JJs may be ok for high gain circuits, but I never liked them in lower gain applications. They seem to suck the life out of those kinds of circuits. I guess I wouldn't recommend either. You may want to get your hands on some Mullard 12AT7s. Readily available and cheap as new production tubes. Much more character and much more versatile. Almost as much gain as a Mullard 12AX7, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricMayhem Posted September 26, 2005 Members Share Posted September 26, 2005 Originally posted by KCA NOS Tubes Ruby STR 7025s rule though (for new production tubes). Really? I have been looking for some "go to" new production tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blackba Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 EH 12AX7's by a long shot. The EH preamp tubes have always sounded at least decent in the amps I have tried them in. The JJ Ecc83S are another story. They sounded good in a sovtek mig 60, but every other amp they have sounded like I put a blanket over the cab and been overly grainy and dull. They were really hyped about 3-4 years ago on this forum and I bought a complete batch for my 2 amps at the time. They are all sitting in their boxes at the moment My personal new production preamp tubes are the Ei elites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KCA NOS Tubes Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by ElectricMayhem Really? I have been looking for some "go to" new production tubes. Look no further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blackba Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by KCA NOS Tubes Look no further. Did you get rid of the EI Elite 12AX7's? I hope not, those are my favorite current production preamp tubes. I will have to check out those ruby tubes. For some reason I couldn't find them without searching for them specifically on your site.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members exilea Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 I had JJ's in my preamp and i just replaced them with EH. Made a nice difference in the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shred-o-holic Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Like KCA NOS said it depends on the amp. Loved 'em in some amps and don't care for them in others.....they worked great in amps that need the fizz tamed down......others that don't need that get the blanket over the cab effect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Biff Snifferson Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 I like the EH more than the JJ's, despite what people say negative about EH's they are a good all around tube,to my ears they do have more top end than the JJ's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KCA NOS Tubes Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by blackba Did you get rid of the EI Elite 12AX7's? I hope not, those are my favorite current production preamp tubes.I will have to check out those ruby tubes. For some reason I couldn't find them without searching for them specifically on your site.... The last batch of EI elites I bought have over 25% rejects. I simply can't waste my time rejecting that many tubes on a particular item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Biff Snifferson Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 Originally posted by KCA NOS Tubes The last batch of EI elites I bought have over 25% rejects. I simply can't waste my time rejecting that many tubes on a particular item. They may not last long but they sound great IMO.I bought a whole bunch for 6.95 a piece last year, at that price who cares.I thought the Elites were the same as the Reg EI's but they were select tubes sorted at the factory with the different silkscreen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duke of Metal Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 I think both are great tubes. I personally prefer the Highgain graded versions for both of those instead of the "standard" ones. But I think each of those 2 comes in handy in certain situations. If your looking to brighten up a dark sounding amp or an amp that has alot of lowmid type tone, then the EHs might come in handy, while the JJs I found to be excellent in taming an already bright amp. on the Highgain and lowgain sounds? both are excellent. The EHs sounded crunchier while the JJs sounded a bit more smoother. Both love to be cranked, specially if you get the highgain graded ones. Noise wise? I personally found the JJs to be a bit lower noise then the EHs. This is all ofcourse going to depend on what kind of setup you use. I used:- Epi Lespaul- ADA MP-1 3TM modded- Carvin T100 tube poweramp- 212 cabinet with celestions. Anyways.. hope that gives you an idea and hope it helps. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BLSmaggot13 Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 what is the sound difference between jj and chinese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kelly Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 The mesa labelled chinese I have sounds bland, but has higher gain than any other 12AX7 I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jcm800stratman Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 I've tried both on and off for awhile and have found that the EH's just work better for me and my rig. In fact (SPAM ALERT!), I have four brand new JJ's that I'm looking to trade for EHs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elric Posted September 27, 2005 Members Share Posted September 27, 2005 I use JJ's in my C30 exclusively. My MP-1 sounded fantastic with EH's about a million times better than JJ's. Then, I had it modded with the 3 tube mod and now it sounds much better with JJ's than EH. My valvefx sounds better with EH. Either way they're my 2 favorite brands of preamp tube. One or the other usually works great depending on which sound I'm going for and what piece of equipment its going into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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