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  • Peavey Valveking vs. Crate V50 ?

    Hi every body...

    I did quite a lot of research here and elsewhere about these 2 amps, but i would like a short easy answer...maybe someone how owns both or tried both extensively?...

    In short, i need a good cheap 50W tube amp to bang around on stage...

    I play dirty blues to hard rock...with a hint of metal but not much...rarely use clean cleans, more a dirty clean kind...

    I was pretty set on the Valveking, but the V50 seems nice, a little more expensive but still affordable.

    And Billy Gibbons plays them V50, and he is my number one tone influence...but i dont care about built in digital fx...wont use them...

    So, are both in the same ballpark sonically?...V50 worth the extra money?..even if i dont use the fxs?

    Thanx !
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    David Gilmour: Don't worry about that. Christ. What would rock 'n roll be without feedback??

  • #2
    Never played the Crate, but I own a Valveking and I love it for what I play. Mostly Classic Rock. I changed the tubes out to Chinese pre's and JJ 6L6's and replaced the speaker with a Celestion 70/80 and it was a major improvement. Great sounding amp. It has become my #1 amp.
    HC Geezer Brigade Trooper #51

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    • #3
      I have a Crate V3112. Great amp. I've never heard a Valve King in person, but in clips I've heard it seems to have a more modern aggressive sound, where the Crate is smoother and more old school.

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      • #4
        I second what VanR says about the Valveking, I own the 112 combo and really enjoy it. Wide range of tones and I like to boost mine with a Bad Monkey for higher gain sounds. Does cleans and mid gain well for the price.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by h2oman
          I second what VanR says about the Valveking, I own the 112 combo and really enjoy it. Wide range of tones and I like to boost mine with a Bad Monkey for higher gain sounds. Does cleans and mid gain well for the price.


          Wow you must like a lot of gain because when I kick my gain boost and volume boost in for leads it gives me more gain than I would ever need otherwise. I generally run the gain knob about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up.

          edit: Of course I am using EMG's so maybe I have more gain than most from them.
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          • #6
            I run my gain knob at 110 usually with the boost on, then run the Bad Monkey as a clean volume boost. So with the boost I get a little more gain but to me it really clears the amp up and is less muddy. The thing i really like about the amp is that there are so many good settings.

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            • #7
              thanks...

              So i should get more gain and a more modern voice with the Valveking, right?

              Anyone has tried the V50 ?
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              David Gilmour: Don't worry about that. Christ. What would rock 'n roll be without feedback??

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              • #8
                Originally posted by woodsmandan
                thanks...

                So i should get more gain and a more modern voice with the Valveking, right?

                Anyone has tried the V50 ?


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                • #9
                  Gibbons is my biggest influence and I've got a Valve King. I briefly looked at the Crate, but I couldn't justify the price increase.

                  With an eminence GB12 in it- it gets me as close as I need to be in order to mimic Billy's sounds. I'm very happy with it.

                  Now if only I could play like him...
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                  • #10
                    I have the VFX 5112 with the hemp tone tubby speaker and just love it. I compared it to the ValveKing and the Traynor YCV 50 blue. All are great amps but the V won out because it,s clean tone was better to me ( it breaks up nicely), the effects are actually useable and the dirty channel was more of what I was looking for for classic rock and blues. One caution , none of these amps would be great for metal without some pedal help. I,ve had no problems at all with the V even though I was skeptical about Crate products.

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                    • #11
                      I have the V30 and love it. Has great versatility between a beautiful clean sound and a very nice distortion. These seem to be built very well too.

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                      • #12
                        Hi every body...

                        I did quite a lot of research here and elsewhere about these 2 amps, but i would like a short easy answer...maybe someone how owns both or tried both extensively?...

                        In short, i need a good cheap 50W tube amp to bang around on stage...

                        I play dirty blues to hard rock...with a hint of metal but not much...rarely use clean cleans, more a dirty clean kind...

                        I was pretty set on the Valveking, but the V50 seems nice, a little more expensive but still affordable.

                        And Billy Gibbons plays them V50, and he is my number one tone influence...but i dont care about built in digital fx...wont use them...

                        So, are both in the same ballpark sonically?...V50 worth the extra money?..even if i dont use the fxs?

                        Thanx !


                        WOW! I thought I was seeing things when I saw this post. Man, I find myself in the same situation right now.

                        After using Randall 100 watt heads back in the day, I decided to go for a combo two years ago to make the trek to a jam less... painful.

                        Picked up a Vox Valvetronix and am suddenly not as jazzed as I once was.

                        I played a Valveking 112 the other day. Had that bad little box cranked failry well and it delivered. Seemed like the eq was lacking a bit though.

                        I've been thinking about a V50 for a while - after hearing Mr. Gibbons playing through his. I know they were discontinued and now I look and it seems theres ar new Crate V series. Not sure as to how they compare with the older ones.

                        So... how did your situation wind up?
                        Mr. Diamond

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                        • #13
                          Valveking.

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                          ok so you don't trust me.

                          The variable A/B class control is truly a unique feature with that amp. It's not ground breaking per se but it does allow you to tame or intensify the gain structure. Smokin' blues crunch to modern metal with ease. The only thing with that amp is the cleans are lacking a little character IMO. Not quite sterile but just nothing that gave me chills or stuck to my memory. I don't think you'll be disappointed from what you were describing what you seek.
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                          • #14
                            valveking, with an eq in the loop, you can thank me later
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                            • #15
                              The Valve King is a pretty solid amp. It has a decent amount of gain, but it's no 5150. The metal tune I recently posted was all Valve King and a Vox AD30vt

                              http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1872156

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