Members joeyinflames Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Ok, here is the rundown. I offered a trade to this guy from ebay a couple weeks back. The trade was his Ibanez JEM 7VWH for my Gibson SG AND my Schecter C-1. The trade was agreed, and pictures were exchanged. I later noticed that he sent me pictures of a different ebay auction of the same guitar - complained to him, then he sent me "real" ones later. I told him for his mistake that I would wait to recieve the guitar and be satisfied with it before I send my guitars. He never responded, only gave me the tracking number under UPS. I recieved the guitar today. And to my suprise it is a KOREAN MADE JEM LOOK-ALIKE. Ibanez branded tuners and tremolo, made in korean factory in 2002 (the picture he sent said j craft on the neck and made in 2006,) not mint (the knobs are ready to break off and the tremolo locks at the headstock are very cheap looking, not the jem prestige neck (looks to be a cheap neck, terrible fret work, and no scalloping at the top frets,) and no dimarzio evolution pickups - they seem to be some random off brand (silver studs, not gold, and no dimarzio logo.) I complained to him by email today and threatened to report him to the NIFW (national internet fraud watch.) I also am debating on whether I should even send the guitar back for his terrible misconception - he could have basically stolen 2 of my guitars, worth together well over the amount of the fake he sent. If he doesn't respond in a week, I am keeping the guitar. Thoughts as to what I should do? Any suggestions would help. Thanks, Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by joeyinflames Ok, here is the rundown. I offered a trade to this guy from ebay a couple weeks back. The trade was his Ibanez JEM 7VWH for my Gibson SG AND my Schecter C-1. The trade was agreed, and pictures were exchanged. I later noticed that he sent me pictures of a different ebay auction of the same guitar - complained to him, then he sent me "real" ones later. I told him for his mistake that I would wait to recieve the guitar and be satisfied with it before I send my guitars. He never responded, only gave me the tracking number under UPS. I recieved the guitar today. And to my suprise it is a KOREAN MADE JEM LOOK-ALIKE. Ibanez branded tuners and tremolo, made in korean factory in 2002 (the picture he sent said j craft on the neck and made in 2006,) not mint (the knobs are ready to break off and the tremolo locks at the headstock are very cheap looking, not the jem prestige neck (looks to be a cheap neck, terrible fret work, and no scalloping at the top frets,) and no dimarzio evolution pickups - they seem to be some random off brand (silver studs, not gold, and no dimarzio logo.) I complained to him by email today and threatened to report him to the NIFW (national internet fraud watch.) I also am debating on whether I should even send the guitar back for his terrible misconception - he could have basically stolen 2 of my guitars, worth together well over the amount of the fake he sent. If he doesn't respond in a week, I am keeping the guitar. Thoughts as to what I should do? Any suggestions would help. Thanks, Joe Sell it on ebay Tell him he's welcome to buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Japetus Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 I told you not to do that trade anyway dammit!!!! Anyway, I am sorry you got screwed. Where does he live? Give names and info, we can help track him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takedeepbreaths Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Wow, where does this {censored} live?I wouldn't send him anything back... if you do smear dog {censored} all over it first. I'd report him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted May 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 EDITI DID NOT SEND MY GUITARS! they are in my posession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted May 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 he lives in california Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DarkIntension Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by joeyinflames he lives in california HE'S OURS!!!LETS GET HIM BOYS. Remember, lighter, dog {censored}, and paper bags...NOT PLASTIC!!!What part of Cali? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted May 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by DarkIntension HE'S OURS!!! LETS GET HIM BOYS. Remember, lighter, dog {censored}, and paper bags...NOT PLASTIC!!! What part of Cali? hahahahahahahahaha thanks man, funny stuff.Jeff Zavala167 Midbury Hill Rd.Newbury Park, CA91320thats his address - or....the one he wanted me to send my stuff to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoodleFace Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 If he doesn't respond keep the guitars. People like this make the world a {censored}ty place. The good news? Trades are not covered by Ebay, so the guitar is all yours if he stops responding. Post his address Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takedeepbreaths Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by joeyinflames hahahahahahahahaha thanks man, funny stuff. Jeff Zavala 167 Midbury Hill Rd. Newbury Park, CA 91320 thats his address - or....the one he wanted me to send my stuff to.... Somebody close needs to make a pipe bomb for his mailbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kung-Fool Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 I'd tell him the deal is off and if he wants his guitar back he has to send money to cover shipping. Then I would drop it a few hundred times on the way to UPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted May 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Jeff Zavala167 Midbury Hill Rd.Newbury Park, CA91320can he get me legally if i keep the guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by joeyinflames Jeff Zavala 167 Midbury Hill Rd. Newbury Park, CA 91320 can he get me legally if i keep the guitar? I don't think so and someone that was trying to scam you I doubt wants any contact with the police anyway. You have contacted him and the ball is in his court to get his stuff back. I would leave it on my porch and tell him to come get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takedeepbreaths Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by joeyinflames Jeff Zavala 167 Midbury Hill Rd. Newbury Park, CA 91320 can he get me legally if i keep the guitar? Not if he doesn't respond saying he wants it back and pays for the shipping. Even then, I'm not so sure he can do anything if you keep it. He failed to deliver on his end of the contract anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wiseblood Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by Kung-Fool I'd tell him the deal is off and if he wants his guitar back he has to send money to cover shipping. Then I would drop it a few hundred times on the way to UPS. this seems like the way to go on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey2112 Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 I'm pretty sure you better give the guitar back. You messed up by posting about it here. You can't keep it and give him nothing. Make him paypal you $40 to cover shipping and packing supplies and then send it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Megadeth7684 Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by peavey2112 I'm pretty sure you better give the guitar back. You messed up by posting about it here. You can't keep it and give him nothing. Make him paypal you $40 to cover shipping and packing supplies and then send it back. I'd send it back too, and I'm an asshole. Joe, any pics of the guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ckreon Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by joeyinflames Jeff Zavala 167 Midbury Hill Rd. Newbury Park, CA 91320 can he get me legally if i keep the guitar? IMHO keeping the guitar makes you no better than him. its crap, give it back, and just be more astute next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted May 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by ckreon IMHO keeping the guitar makes you no better than him. its crap, give it back, and just be more astute next time. true, as long as he responds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takedeepbreaths Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by ckreon IMHO keeping the guitar makes you no better than him. its crap, give it back, and just be more astute next time. {censored} that, what goes around comes around. Keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rufus Leaking Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by ckreon IMHO keeping the guitar makes you no better than him. its crap, give it back, and just be more astute next time. Not to mention it would make you the scammer - not him. He did send you an Ibanez Jem right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by Rufus Leaking Not to mention it would make you the scammer - not him. He did send you an Ibanez Jem right? nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ckreon Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Originally posted by takedeepbreaths {censored} that, what goes around comes around. Keep it. attitudes like that are a big reason for alot of our world's problems. There's nothing wrong with justice, but be smart about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joeyinflames Posted May 31, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 here are some quick pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Megadeth7684 Posted May 31, 2006 Members Share Posted May 31, 2006 Did he ever specify that it was a MIJ model? Maybe he just made an honest mistake? Did you ever ask him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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