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    ok my friend said he just traded for a Crate 15, I assume he meant this.

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Crate-V1512T-15-Watt-Class-A-Tube-Combo?sku=481755

    it's a Crate 15 watt all tube combo amp.

    my question is how can a 15 watt amp cost this much and is 15 watts enough for anyone to hear you play?
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    5 watts can be loud.
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    • #3
      its valve, and doesnt cost THAT much!

      + its mainly a recording amp I predict
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      • #4
        There are much more expensive 15 watt amps than that. I play an 18 watt through a 2x12 live, and it's more than enough volume for rock and roll.
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        • #5
          There's a lot of amps out there that have less watts than that, that cost muuuuch much more. and 15 tube watts is still pretty loud.
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          • #6
            That Crate's not badly priced. Decent sounding amp. 15 watts is an ideal volume for club use.

            You think that's bad, look at this one. 5 watts, no controls except volume. $1700. The guy that makes them is complaining he can't sell enough to make money.

            http://www.texastubeamps.com/

            I'm sure there are worse examples if you look.

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            • #7
              just seems strange when you get a 120 watt half stack for about the same or a little more.

              I've never played on a 15 watt tube amp though. I have a low wattage solid state tube amp from back in the day that was 30 watts and there is no way it would be loud enough to play with a drummer though.

              I guess I'll have to wait to hear it.
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              • #8
                I've been gigging with 17 watt amps for about 4 years. I've never been asked to 'turn up'. I've been asked more than once to turn down.

                and $499 is cheap for an all-tube amp. Of course, it's a pcb, and crate, but still... what's the 'new' price on a blues jr?
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                • #9
                  Simple. Crate is charging a ridiculous price hoping to get fools to purchase this high margin item. There is probably not a big difference in manufacturing costs between the Crate and the very reasonably priced Epiphone Valve Junior.

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                  • #10
                    just seems strange when you get a 120 watt half stack for about the same or a little more.

                    I've never played on a 15 watt tube amp though. I have a low wattage solid state tube amp from back in the day that was 30 watts and there is no way it would be loud enough to play with a drummer though.

                    I guess I'll have to wait to hear it.


                    This would imply that solid state amps and tube amps are equal in terms of tone and in terms of volume. Wattage is the most irrelivant figure in terms of figuring out how an amp sounds. There is more that goes into an amp than simply power.

                    I have a feeling you'll be pleasantly surprised at what a 15 watt tube amp will do.
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                    • #11
                      What does wattage have to do with price?

                      ... and yeah, this amp is JUST LIKE a VALVE JUNIOR!!!

                      Please people, get a clue before you post misinformed comments
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                      • #12
                        just seems strange when you get a 120 watt half stack for about the same or a little more.

                        I've never played on a 15 watt tube amp though. I have a low wattage solid state tube amp from back in the day that was 30 watts and there is no way it would be loud enough to play with a drummer though.

                        I guess I'll have to wait to hear it.


                        Um, yeah, you can get a 120 Watt half stack for about the same price, but it is most likely going to be a ****************ty solid state amp. There is a big difference between a 120w tube and 120w SS.

                        Just to make an example: I have a 80w Peavey SS and a 30w Peavey Tube amp. Suprise!!! The 30w tube amp is waaayy louder.

                        What do you mean, you have a "low wattage solid state tube amp from back in the day that was 30 watts"? Solid state tube amp? What does that even mean? I'm guessing you mean a SS amp with a tube pre amp, which is definitely not going to be very loud.

                        Don't knock a 15w tube amp for $499. That actually isn't very expensive.
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                          Um, yeah, you can get a 120 Watt half stack for about the same price, but it is most likely going to be a ****************ty solid state amp. There is a big difference between a 120w tube and 120w SS.

                          Just to make an example: I have a 80w Peavey SS and a 30w Peavey Tube amp. Suprise!!! The 30w tube amp is waaayy louder.

                          What do you mean, you have a "low wattage solid state tube amp from back in the day that was 30 watts"? Solid state tube amp? What does that even mean? I'm guessing you mean a SS amp with a tube pre amp, which is definitely not going to be very loud.

                          Don't knock a 15w tube amp for $499. That actually isn't very expensive.


                          oops I mis typed. I meant it was a solid state amp

                          I'm not really "knocking" the amp, it just didn't seem like it would be very loud at only 15 watts. I've always played with loud drummers and had to crank up the amp to play at a similar level. thats all.
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                          • #14
                            What does wattage have to do with price?

                            ... and yeah, this amp is JUST LIKE a VALVE JUNIOR!!!

                            Please people, get a clue before you post misinformed comments


                            wow, that's harsh...and it was wasn't a misinformed comment it was a question.
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                              just seems strange when you get a 120 watt half stack for about the same or a little more.

                              I've never played on a 15 watt tube amp though. I have a low wattage solid state tube amp from back in the day that was 30 watts and there is no way it would be loud enough to play with a drummer though.

                              I guess I'll have to wait to hear it.


                              Loud and good aren't necessarily the same thing.

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