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  • My Recto is irritating me...

    No matter what I do, I just can't get satisfied with my amp. Now, I love the clean, although I don't think it's something I couldn't find anywhere else. It's the high gain that's pissing me off. And me being a metal guy, that's kind of important.

    For example, everyone says that amps sound better when they're cranked. Well, I can get pretty decent tone at a low (relatively, like 90 on the master) volume, nice thick crunchy stuff. But then when I turn it up it just turns to crap, muddy, notes have no definition or sound harsh, tremolo sound ghastly. Now, I suppose it might be the cab (it's a fairly cheap cab) but the speakers in it are nice (V30's and Wizards). And this is with a hell of a lot of tweaking of the gain, with and without a boost (punch factory), EQ in the loop with tons of settings. No matter what, when I turn it up it sounds crappy. And when the volume is lower, it sounds good, but not that good. I could get close to the sound with a solid state. And it has that harsh fizzyness which seems to never quite go away - I can get rid of it but at the expense of the power of my

    Now I know a whole lot of bands use the dual rectifier (granted most of them don't use the T-verb, but it's essentially the same to my knowledge). So it must be possible to get better tone. I know I probably need to upgrade my cab (I'm looking at a Mesa cab which I posted about earlier). I also might have some of this fixed by playing a guitar with EMG's - which I've been thinking of getting for a while. But it seems that neither of these things will solve everything. I need an amp that has lots of gain, specifically the "modern" gain sound, but also has lots of clarity and smoothness. So far I just can't get that sound out of my dual recto. Maybe this is why a lot of people hate them.

    I am getting pretty close to selling this thing and replacing it. So, I'm looking for either suggestions on how to get the sound I'm looking for with this amp, or what amp I should be getting. I've been thinking for a while about the Mark IV, seems like it might be more what I'm interested in. The other thing I've been considering is either an Engl Powerball or Blackmore.
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    send it to me. i'll make it sound nice.
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    • #3
      My Single was hit or miss. I got tired of fighting it so I got rid of it.
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      • #4
        MESA RECTOS suck. Get a real amp. And be happy.

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        • #5
          MESA RECTOS suck. Get a real amp. And be happy.


          OK genius, what's a REAL amp?
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            • #7
              OK genius, what's a REAL amp?


              Anything other than BOOGIES.

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              • #8
                Anything other than BOOGIES.




                Are you mad because you can't afford them?
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                • #9
                  if its irritating you, thats because they dont go in your butt.



                  i think it may be one of those things were you are using the "standard" of metal gear and it sounds vanilla to you.

                  go check out some bogner or some other higher end high gain amps.

                  also for clarity, i dont think active pickups are where its at. try some high output passives. you may be surprised.
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                  • #10
                    Ever try boosting it with a maxon?

                    Ever try an EQ in the loop?

                    Are you using a solid state recifier?

                    How much gain?

                    What kind of pickups?
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                    • #11
                      How old are the tubes? Last month I posted a MINT Recto straight cab on Craig's list here in Chicago and on Harmony Central for $525 and nothing. With all the metal heads, I thought it wouldn't last a few days. I ended up trading it in at GC. Oh well.
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                        How much gain?

                        What kind of pickups?


                        1. lots

                        2. emg's
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                        • #13
                          My Single was hit or miss. I got tired of fighting it so I got rid of it.


                          I feel the same way. Should I go with a Mark IV? All signs are pointing me that way, except that I could get a powerball for just a few hundred bucks more, or a blackmore for about the same amount.

                          But for some reason, despite my experiences with this amp, there's something which makes me think ultimately I want something by Mesa.
                          <div class="signaturecontainer"><font size="1"><b>Guitars:</b> <b>Washburn WG-587 | Roter | Fernandes | Tokai</b><br />
                          <b>Rig:</b> <font color="green"><b>Fractal Audio Axe-FX Ultra</b></font> -&gt; <b><font color="Navy">ART SLA-2</font></b><br />
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                          <b>Bands:</b> <a href="http://www.myspace.com/solecismband" target="_blank">Solecism</a> (prog death) | <a href="http://www.myspace.com/kisamablack" target="_blank">Kisama</a> (black) | <a href="http://www.myspace.com/kuroiband" target="_blank">Kuroi</a> (brutal) | <a href="http://www.myspace.com/embalmjapan" target="_blank">Embalm</a> (death metal)<br />
                          <b>Clips/songs (many styles):</b> <a href="http://www.soundclick.com/thinkpad20" target="_blank">soundclick</a>|<a href="http://www.netmusicians.org/index.php?section=user&amp;value=thinkpad20" target="_blank">netmusicians</a><br />
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                            Are you mad because you can't afford them?


                            Owned a new MESA F-50...for about 5 days. Took it back and bought a 5150II. Never looked back.

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                            • #15
                              How old are the tubes? Last month I posted a MINT Recto straight cab on Craig's list here in Chicago and on Harmony Central for $525 and nothing. With all the metal heads, I thought it wouldn't last a few days. I ended up trading it in at GC. Oh well.


                              There's a Mesa recto straight cab on Chicago craig's list right now for $450, I'm thinking of snatching it up.
                              <div class="signaturecontainer"><font size="1"><b>Guitars:</b> <b>Washburn WG-587 | Roter | Fernandes | Tokai</b><br />
                              <b>Rig:</b> <font color="green"><b>Fractal Audio Axe-FX Ultra</b></font> -&gt; <b><font color="Navy">ART SLA-2</font></b><br />
                              <br />
                              <b>Bands:</b> <a href="http://www.myspace.com/solecismband" target="_blank">Solecism</a> (prog death) | <a href="http://www.myspace.com/kisamablack" target="_blank">Kisama</a> (black) | <a href="http://www.myspace.com/kuroiband" target="_blank">Kuroi</a> (brutal) | <a href="http://www.myspace.com/embalmjapan" target="_blank">Embalm</a> (death metal)<br />
                              <b>Clips/songs (many styles):</b> <a href="http://www.soundclick.com/thinkpad20" target="_blank">soundclick</a>|<a href="http://www.netmusicians.org/index.php?section=user&amp;value=thinkpad20" target="_blank">netmusicians</a><br />
                              <b>Vids:</b> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/thinkpad20" target="_blank">youtube</a></font><br />
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