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  • ENGL Powerball vs. Fireball ?

    How are they comparing ? Is there any difference soundwise ? Considering I don't really need 100W power (60W is more than enough), do you think Powerball is worthing 500 Euro more ?
    I play modern metal (groove/hardcore/metalcore) and I have mahogany guitars equipped with EMG81 or SD Distortion.

  • #2
    They sound almost identical, the powerball just being louder with mroe versatility. If you don't need a lot of power and flexibility, go with the fireball since its cheaper.
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    • #3
      What do you mean about more versatility ?

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      • #4
        What do you mean about more versatility ?


        the fireball has a clean and lead channel
        the powerball has a clean, crunch, and lead channel
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        • #5
          fireball also has shared eq

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          • #6
            fireball also has shared eq


            truth, and a shared gain control (but from what i hear, it's really easy to work with it and make both channels usable to footswitch between live)
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            • #7
              Get a savage.
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              • #8
                Power has alot more features.

                Two EQ's instead of one.
                Four channels instead of two.
                Built in Noisegate to tame teh Br00talz.
                Focused/Open button that changes the voicing of the distortion a bit.
                Read up about them. Both are good amps, similar sounding, can't go wrong either way.
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                • #9
                  Get a savage.


                  pretty much sums it up, the savage is just flat-out the tits man.
                  "Follow your instinct.... It usually takes you home."

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                  • #10
                    one thing that you guys didn't tell him is that fireball (from what i heard the same goes to powerball) is pritty dark amp and since you have mahogany (dark) it could be very dark combination maybe your bright MEG 81 would balance it out.
                    If you play with 2 settings (clean and distortion) that go with fireball. If you use clean/rock/metal/blues tone in one song, than go with powerball.
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                    • #11
                      could you add, say a tubescreamer for the fireball, wouldn't that give you a nice overdrive on the clean channel, and a nice boost for the distortion channel?
                      Originally Posted by Lou Speed


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                      • #12
                        could you add, say a tubescreamer for the fireball, wouldn't that give you a nice overdrive on the clean channel, and a nice boost for the distortion channel?


                        Like run the amp on a half-way clean/dirty tone? Maybe I dunno........the amp has a **************** load of gain on tap all the way before 9 oclock........as far as clean boosting goes that's exactly what I'm doing with my Fireball........sounds awesome.........but that's half gain on the amp and no gain or tone on OD pedal...just volume.......
                        Originally Posted by Light em Up


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                        • #13
                          could you add, say a tubescreamer for the fireball, wouldn't that give you a nice overdrive on the clean channel, and a nice boost for the distortion channel?


                          That'd be a pretty cool idea.


                          Although, you can just turn down the volume on one pickup, and switch between pickups for super clean and dirty-clean/overdrive tones, then switch channels for the heavy distortion.
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                          Originally Posted by lfrz93


                          btw petejt,
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                          • #14
                            Take note that the Gain in BOTH of these videos is at 9 o'clock.

                            Everything else is the same, including the volume controls on the guitar (both max)

                            Normal Channel, Neck pickup


                            Ultra Gain Channel, Bridge Pickup



                            Yes I went ape**************** on the chorus
                            Originally Posted by Spacehog26


                            Sonic Maximisers are...the musical equivalent
                            of a turd polisher.




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                            Originally Posted by lfrz93


                            btw petejt,
                            is that you in your avatar?









                            Originally Posted by petejt







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                            • #15
                              Like run the amp on a half-way clean/dirty tone? Maybe I dunno........the amp has a **************** load of gain on tap all the way before 9 oclock........as far as clean boosting goes that's exactly what I'm doing with my Fireball........sounds awesome.........but that's half gain on the amp and no gain or tone on OD pedal...just volume.......


                              are you clean boosting it with a ts? that's something i would like to do (if i decide to buy the fireball)

                              and basically i wanna add the tubescreamer when using the clean channel, not for main distortion but for a nice overdrive.

                              doing that could turn it into "3 channels", maybe?, and using another ts (or just a clean boost for solos), it'll be like "4 channels"
                              Originally Posted by Lou Speed


                              Ah, the old shampoo in the pussy ruse.

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