Members superludox Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 Hello to everybody, here I come again with my switching problem. Indeed, I own the Bugera 333XL head coupled with a G-Major and controlled by a FCB1010 (midi). The Bugera 333XL comes with a floorboard (FCB104) with a 5 pins proprietary connector. It looks like a mini din connector but it is not standard! My problem is simple : I have to be able to change the channels of the amp with only one floorboard within a midi patch. For that purpose, I have to use the two G-Major relays.But here is the deal: after having analysed the FCB104 by Bugera, its 5 pins are not used for 5 functions. We indeed have a GND, 3 pins to feed 3 leds and one which is designed to send impulses to the amp. Indeed, this pin (the white one on the PCB)is going to send, according to the selected channel, different tensions. These values correspond to a particular channel. Here is the diagram I made : http://ludovic.faraill.free.fr/Bugera/bugera.gif.I need support to make the conversion table : Tip / Ring / =What kind of simple material can do the job ? The FX loop part is not necessary, only the 3 channels. Any idea or helping hand are welcomeThanx Ludo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted April 17, 2008 Members Share Posted April 17, 2008 Wow...that looks like it sucks. I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Hey dude, any luck with this so far??I am endorsed by Bugera and have actually sent them an email today regarding MIDI functionality, hopefully they will concoct something to help us both without having to pull our amps apart!Cheers mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members superludox Posted May 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2008 great !!! I hope they will react on this problem. For the moment I found no help and I am not able to make the interface. Looks like none of the Bugera owners are using a fx unit !? It would be great if you could give me the infos you'll get from Bugera. See you soon. Thanx Ludo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted May 21, 2008 Members Share Posted May 21, 2008 Hey dude, unfortunately they gave me no helpful information as they haven't considered midi use :SAlthough I'm thinking of doing it my own way where I remove the Physical switch and replace with a small corcuit controlled by the G majors relays!Cheers, I'll get back to you when I've had a go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted May 25, 2008 Members Share Posted May 25, 2008 ok! So here's what I did, first of all I have a MIDI/ Analogue relay converter *FOOTSIM by Soundsculpture* And I bought some female 1/4" jacks. I basically just opened the footboard, wired each of 4 jacks to the terminals of the Switches and now I just control it using midi. It takes momentary switching so I've set up each midi output like this for example! Clean channel: 1 0 1 1 (Clean ON, Dirty OFF, Reverb ON, Effects ON) But here I have momentary for clean, dirty, reverb but FX is ON/ OFF relay so that it stays ON, because I have it on for both channels! I'll take some pictures soon dude! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shask Posted May 25, 2008 Members Share Posted May 25, 2008 That sounds nuts, lol. So, you still have the footswitch attached, with wires hanging out it it attached to a switching unit? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charveldan Posted May 25, 2008 Members Share Posted May 25, 2008 Wow...that looks like it sucks. I'm sorry. Get a carvin V3 its got MIDI and blows Bulgera out of the water.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paranormal5150 Posted May 25, 2008 Members Share Posted May 25, 2008 Hey dude, any luck with this so far??I am endorsed by Bugera and have actually sent them an email today regarding MIDI functionality, hopefully they will concoct something to help us both without having to pull our amps apart!Cheers mate! What do you do to go about getting endorsed by bugera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paranormal5150 Posted May 25, 2008 Members Share Posted May 25, 2008 btw i wish my bugera 333xl would let me turn the reverb on and off via the footswitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted May 25, 2008 Members Share Posted May 25, 2008 nah, I drilled some holed in it and made the jacks INSIDE the pedal, there's {censored}ing {censored} tons of space in there, It looks really neat and official now No cords dangling anywhere! As for endorsed, beats me man, they liked what they heard from me :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tws! Posted May 26, 2008 Members Share Posted May 26, 2008 btw i wish my bugera 333xl would let me turn the reverb on and off via the footswitch. Wow... bugerapwnt. What kind of amp with reverb isn't footswitchable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members superludox Posted May 26, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 26, 2008 nah, I drilled some holed in it and made the jacks INSIDE the pedal, there's {censored}ing {censored} tons of space in there, It looks really neat and official now No cords dangling anywhere! As for endorsed, beats me man, they liked what they heard from me :S Hi Jensu ! It's cool you found a trick. Actually, you wired the Bugera floorboard internal connectors with female jacks, right ? And, it respond to the midi=>jack signal, right too? I am waiting for your photos with great impatience. Maybe I need your support to do the same;), let me know if you are ok. Thanx:thu: Ludo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted May 26, 2008 Members Share Posted May 26, 2008 hey dude, yeh I'm just doing the finishing touches, one connection I {censored}ed up! I'll take some pictures tomorrow evening! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satannica Posted May 26, 2008 Members Share Posted May 26, 2008 Booking my place for searching laters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted May 28, 2008 Members Share Posted May 28, 2008 BTW, before I get some pics done, if you ARE interested in doing this its VERY simple. Just connect one wire from each + - on the boards physical switches, then soldier those to each connection on the mono Female 1/4" and you are set That's really all it took Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members superludox Posted June 3, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 3, 2008 BTW, before I get some pics done, if you ARE interested in doing this its VERY simple. Just connect one wire from each + - on the boards physical switches, then soldier those to each connection on the mono Female 1/4" and you are set That's really all it took Hi Jensu, Do you think it is possible to do the same with the two G-Major "dry" relays? I mean without a midi translator. I hope you can put some photo:thu: Bye Ludo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted June 3, 2008 Members Share Posted June 3, 2008 Yeh dude, any relay works, my MIDI switcher is only used as a medium for the analogue relays!The G major will work fine like this I can't see why not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted June 3, 2008 Members Share Posted June 3, 2008 btw i wish my bugera 333xl would let me turn the reverb on and off via the footswitch. Wtf....thats weird. You can do it on the 6262. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted June 3, 2008 Members Share Posted June 3, 2008 btw i wish my bugera 333xl would let me turn the reverb on and off via the footswitch. Yeah, my 6262 has a reverb stomp, just no clean to crunch stomp. Huh, *scratches head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted June 3, 2008 Members Share Posted June 3, 2008 nah, I drilled some holed in it and made the jacks INSIDE the pedal, there's {censored}ing {censored} tons of space in there, It looks really neat and official now No cords dangling anywhere! As for endorsed, beats me man, they liked what they heard from me :S {censored}in' incrediblely nice. I'm ALMOST brave enough to try this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted June 8, 2008 Members Share Posted June 8, 2008 HEY GUSY! PHOTOS UP NOW! BTW I had to get this idea © so yeh! No copying without permission, Bugera is trying to do some deal blah blah so yeh sorry! If you take for your own SUE SUE! And no, that's not my GF's name LOL But seriously, this works so well, G major will work fine with it! Only thing is is it capable of ON/ OFF and Momentary also??? Cheers, pics below! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted June 8, 2008 Members Share Posted June 8, 2008 Very, very, nice work! Thanks for the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jensu Posted June 8, 2008 Members Share Posted June 8, 2008 NP dude, sorry they aren't too clear but you get the idea right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted June 8, 2008 Members Share Posted June 8, 2008 NP dude, sorry they aren't too clear but you get the idea right??? Sure do. I think I found someone smarter than me to do this for me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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