Members Fendert Posted July 5, 2010 Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 I am thinking about getting one I demoed it for about 30 minutes at the local musicians store here, but was a little put off that there was no effects loop. I'm I being dumb for caring about that? my chain consists of TU-3-> dirt->dirt-> M9 and I usually run the m9 in the FX loop Will I miss it too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundgardener75 Posted July 5, 2010 Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 I thought of that too since I have a G System, but the tones on that amp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TU BE Posted July 5, 2010 Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 Take your M9 to the store and run it through the front of the AC15 and see if you dig it. I'm sure it'll sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted July 5, 2010 Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 The normal channel on the AC15C1 is pretty close to being an effect loop return.. just keep the normal volume lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fendert Posted July 5, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 I thought of that too since I have a G System, but the tones on that amp... Yeah for real! I honestly loved the normal Channel the most! master all the way up normal volume at about noon. aghh I was loving it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted July 5, 2010 Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 Yeah for real! I honestly loved the normal Channel the most! master all the way up normal volume at about noon. aghh I was loving it! Yeah with a humbucker, your definitely in the breakup zone there! But the pick dynamics are absolutely awesome there though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fendert Posted July 5, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 The normal channel on the AC15C1 is pretty close to being an effect loop return.. just keep the normal volume lower. so then would in be like Tu-3->dirt->dirt->top boost L>M9-> normal channel use a (Y) cable going out of my dirt in to the top boost and then M9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted July 5, 2010 Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 Sounds good to me Although - for the top boost channel - you might find that you need a specific EQing for your dirt pedals to work in the top boost. To completely solve that, do the cap mod. Just find the 120p capacitor and desolder/clip it. (should be the ONLY 100-120p cap in there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kerouac Posted July 5, 2010 Members Share Posted July 5, 2010 I've never needed an FX loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhall Posted July 7, 2010 Members Share Posted July 7, 2010 I've never needed an FX loop. Seems that my best amps (pure tone wise) have none. The newest AC15s I've heard demos of sound fantastic alone. Also contrary to popular belief, good amps sound great with pedals in front. In many cases with headlining acts, there is a mixture of in front and after mic effects going on. The AC-15 is one of the iconic amps of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted July 7, 2010 Members Share Posted July 7, 2010 Also, this is probably one of the best combinations you could ever make: EDIT: Its mostly about the pickups and the combination / phasing switches.. Esplained here: http://www.brianmaycentral.net/phasing.html Bridge and Middle pickups in phase This is Brian's favourite pickup combination, which he uses 85% of the time. For chords and rhythm work this combination can give that lovely full ringing tone, but still maintains good separation between notes so it doesn't turn muddy. A good example of this tone are the riffs on Hammer to Fall and Tie Your Mother Down. This setting is also good for lead work and was used by Brian for the opening solo in Brighton Rock. Neck and Middle pickups out of phase This is a real 'screaming' lead tone, which is piercing at high volumes. Brian used this tone extensively on songs where he wanted a really emotional cutting solo, such as Bohemian Rhapsody, Somebody to Love and The March of the Black Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imbuedblue Posted July 7, 2010 Members Share Posted July 7, 2010 I've never needed an FX loop. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaoloJM Posted July 7, 2010 Members Share Posted July 7, 2010 The AC15 is not a high gain amp.The relevance of an FX Loop for it is limited. It seems like you're getting a lot of the dirt from your pedals anyway. The Edge uses a {censored} load of FX in front of his AC30 and it doesn't appear to have hindered him a whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted July 7, 2010 Members Share Posted July 7, 2010 The AC15 is not a high gain amp.The relevance of an FX Loop for it is limited. This. FX loop on the AC15/30 would only skip 1 or 2 stages (normal or top boost). -D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reddt1 Posted July 7, 2010 Members Share Posted July 7, 2010 It always bothers me when an amp has no FX loop ... but as others have mentioned, if you're getting most of your dirt from pedals, no bigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BradVOX Posted July 7, 2010 Members Share Posted July 7, 2010 An effects loop on a high gain amp is necessary because you need to drop modulation and delays in after the pre-amp (gain stage). This is not true on a clean or relatively clean amp like the AC15. Effects in front of the amp work very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Badside Posted July 7, 2010 Members Share Posted July 7, 2010 It always bothers me when an amp has no FX loop ... but as others have mentioned, if you're getting most of your dirt from pedals, no bigs. And if you're pushing an AC15 to get it dirty, then most of your overdrive happens in the PI and the power amp, so no loop will help here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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