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  • #16
    If he does not send the unit back, and therefore I send no money back, what kind of trouble could I be looking at? Forgive me for bumping this a lot, but I just get really paranoid with stuff like this. FWIW I have several references on here as both a buyer and a seller, and I also have 2 ebay accounts (lminerv and nminerv) which are flawless as both a buyer and a seller. I have sold things as expensive as USA Jacksons and an ENGL SE as well as stuff as cheap as pickups, so I cannot see a reason why this one time on this one unit Im looking to rip a guy off. Im not outright accusing this guy of trying to scam me, but I know one technique scammers use is to try to make the other person feel like the scammer so they fall into the trap. It does seem like he is doing this as he has avoided most conversation regarding solving the problem unless it had to do with me refunding first which I will not do.

    Thank you guys so much for the feedback thus far I really feel a lot better knowing that I am taking reasonable steps here
    Guitars:
    Jackson SL-1, Shattered Glass, BK Holy Diver/Trilogy Suite HSS set
    Jackson SLSMG, Eerie Dress Swirl, BK Nailbomb/Coldsweat set

    Amp:
    ENGL Savage 120 w/midi interface
    ENGL Vintage 4X12 w/ V30s X G12K100s

    Pedal Board (Furman SPB-8):
    RMC Wizard Wah (grey shell)
    Rocktron Midi Mate

    Rack:
    ISP Decimator ProRack G
    Furman PF Pro R
    X2 Wireless
    Korg DTR 2000


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    • #17
      That guy seems to sell alot on rig talk. I wouldn't worry that he is trying to scam you. Wait to get it back- then refund
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      • #18
        thats the exact logic I was thinking. He in the initial message he said that everything appears fine and it just does not work. So there at least we established that there is a G-Force and it did not show up sawed in half lol. I asked him to clarify the problem and he says that it just does not turn on even though he has tried several power cords. These units just turn on automatically when they are plugged in so if that is really what is wrong that should not be user error (though it was not like that when I sent it out). I asked him if he could somehow show me (perhaps video via digial camera) the unit not working, but even if not I said I would refund after he sent it back. If he could show me the unit not working I also offered to pay for the repair instead if he still wanted the G-Force


        *Ahem* No they don't. They have 2 power switches and both need to be on.

        From the TC G-Force manual:


        You press Power switch, but there is no reaction.
        - The power switch on the rear panel is switched off.
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        • #19
          oh wow I guess I never noticed that lol. It always just powered on for me. I wonder if he has the switch off
          Guitars:
          Jackson SL-1, Shattered Glass, BK Holy Diver/Trilogy Suite HSS set
          Jackson SLSMG, Eerie Dress Swirl, BK Nailbomb/Coldsweat set

          Amp:
          ENGL Savage 120 w/midi interface
          ENGL Vintage 4X12 w/ V30s X G12K100s

          Pedal Board (Furman SPB-8):
          RMC Wizard Wah (grey shell)
          Rocktron Midi Mate

          Rack:
          ISP Decimator ProRack G
          Furman PF Pro R
          X2 Wireless
          Korg DTR 2000


          G-man, Lucious, Thrust, Danhops, Mustaine-who?, JnBroadbent, LordOfChaos, themike, CenturyStanding

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          • #20
            oh ****************

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            • #21
              That is definately the plan. I shipped UPS and declared the value at $725. If I get it back and it show problems that relate to shipping does UPS do anything about it?
              what kind of proof are you going to show?
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              • #22
                I have no idea, but the guy says it just wont turn on. Im not sure anyone can prove that being related to shipping. I did not know that was the issue when I asked that question
                Guitars:
                Jackson SL-1, Shattered Glass, BK Holy Diver/Trilogy Suite HSS set
                Jackson SLSMG, Eerie Dress Swirl, BK Nailbomb/Coldsweat set

                Amp:
                ENGL Savage 120 w/midi interface
                ENGL Vintage 4X12 w/ V30s X G12K100s

                Pedal Board (Furman SPB-8):
                RMC Wizard Wah (grey shell)
                Rocktron Midi Mate

                Rack:
                ISP Decimator ProRack G
                Furman PF Pro R
                X2 Wireless
                Korg DTR 2000


                G-man, Lucious, Thrust, Danhops, Mustaine-who?, JnBroadbent, LordOfChaos, themike, CenturyStanding

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                • #23
                  did you have him check the power switches?
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                  • #24
                    Sounds like buyers remorse. Like maybe he decided to change his plans for his rig or found a better deal and wanted to send it back.
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                    • #25
                      I did PM him asking if he checked the power switches, because frankly Im retarded and didnt realize there was one (I guess it was always flipped on so whenever i plugged in it would turn on so I never noticed/checked for a switch in the back). Im wondering if when I packed the unit i flipped it off without realizing it was even there and maybe he doesnt know it was there either. Or maybe it is just buyers remorse who knows, but in that case I would hope that he would just sell it elsewhere rather than give me a hard time just to get the money back faster
                      Guitars:
                      Jackson SL-1, Shattered Glass, BK Holy Diver/Trilogy Suite HSS set
                      Jackson SLSMG, Eerie Dress Swirl, BK Nailbomb/Coldsweat set

                      Amp:
                      ENGL Savage 120 w/midi interface
                      ENGL Vintage 4X12 w/ V30s X G12K100s

                      Pedal Board (Furman SPB-8):
                      RMC Wizard Wah (grey shell)
                      Rocktron Midi Mate

                      Rack:
                      ISP Decimator ProRack G
                      Furman PF Pro R
                      X2 Wireless
                      Korg DTR 2000


                      G-man, Lucious, Thrust, Danhops, Mustaine-who?, JnBroadbent, LordOfChaos, themike, CenturyStanding

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                      • #26
                        That's why selling on the net sucks. I'm a much bigger fan of craigslist deals.

                        Both dudes meet in a parking lot with friends, check it out, pay cash, see you later.

                        Obviously, an amp would be difficult, I'm sure there's a starbucks with an outlet you use for 2 minutes.

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                        • #27
                          I actually do most of my work on craigslist for those very reasons, but the G-Force just wasnt moving so I came here
                          Guitars:
                          Jackson SL-1, Shattered Glass, BK Holy Diver/Trilogy Suite HSS set
                          Jackson SLSMG, Eerie Dress Swirl, BK Nailbomb/Coldsweat set

                          Amp:
                          ENGL Savage 120 w/midi interface
                          ENGL Vintage 4X12 w/ V30s X G12K100s

                          Pedal Board (Furman SPB-8):
                          RMC Wizard Wah (grey shell)
                          Rocktron Midi Mate

                          Rack:
                          ISP Decimator ProRack G
                          Furman PF Pro R
                          X2 Wireless
                          Korg DTR 2000


                          G-man, Lucious, Thrust, Danhops, Mustaine-who?, JnBroadbent, LordOfChaos, themike, CenturyStanding

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                          • #28
                            I always tell people as is, no refund.

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                            • #29
                              If he does not send the unit back, and therefore I send no money back, what kind of trouble could I be looking at? Forgive me for bumping this a lot, but I just get really paranoid with stuff like this. FWIW I have several references on here as both a buyer and a seller, and I also have 2 ebay accounts (lminerv and nminerv) which are flawless as both a buyer and a seller. I have sold things as expensive as USA Jacksons and an ENGL SE as well as stuff as cheap as pickups, so I cannot see a reason why this one time on this one unit Im looking to rip a guy off. Im not outright accusing this guy of trying to scam me, but I know one technique scammers use is to try to make the other person feel like the scammer so they fall into the trap. It does seem like he is doing this as he has avoided most conversation regarding solving the problem unless it had to do with me refunding first which I will not do.

                              Thank you guys so much for the feedback thus far I really feel a lot better knowing that I am taking reasonable steps here


                              I got your back Dunno how much I can help but you were quite a pleasure to deal with on your SE!

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                              • #30
                                If he does not send the unit back, and therefore I send no money back, what kind of trouble could I be looking at?
                                None.

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