Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 14, 2010 Members Share Posted October 14, 2010 Is English your first language? I'm decided I want t learn Japanese, but besides learning a few words and phrases, I'm kinda eh.... I looked online and made it through one lesson and I know a whole {censored}load about a tree now. I tried using babelfish but all I got was a bunch of squares. I can speak a little bit of Spanish but I wanted to start learning some Japanese since I think it might help me in the IT field. Also I wanna know what the hell is going on in those crazy game shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 apparently not a single {censored} was given that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 thinkpad went out there to teach, {censored} and fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 thinkpad went out there to teach, {censored} and fight.Yeah but he didnt come back here to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FBird Nation Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 Domo Origato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Travisaurus Rex Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 ?????? ??????????????????????? ?????????????????? ???????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeid2000 Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 I'm sure Neil might know some stuff. I lol'd at the tree and the not a single {censored} was given. WIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 ?????? ??????????????????????? ?????????????????? ???????????????????????????? I need to get a new language pack. All I see is a bunch of squares. I just got win 7 yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 ?????? ??????????????????????? ?????????????????? ???????????????????????????? Today. You should procure the [rozetsuta] stone program. It is the splendid weak thing where it should learn. By the way, the hole of the rear end (the foolish guy) with you please have sexual intercourse. thats what babelfish gave me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 Today. [rozetsuta] Should be obtained the stonework program. Element clear it does that we should learn, it is the [ku] weak thing. The rear section where by the way, you have been attached (the foolish person) there is sexual intercourse in the hole. Thats the old translate and re translate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 What you want to know? ???? I am moving back to Japan on the 15th of Dec if all goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 Learn thesethen basicphrases.Also basic kanji like??????onna meaning woman (handy in toilets)??????otoko meaning mantokyo ?????????? nihongo Japanese language Nihon means Japan (as well as nippon)Ext.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 Learn these then basicphrases. Also basic kanji like ??????onna meaning woman (handy in toilets) ??????otoko meaning man tokyo ?? ???????? nihongo Japanese language Nihon means Japan (as well as nippon) Ext.. This is exactly what I was looking for. It seems like Kanji is easier than the English alphabet but I guess I need the audio before it clicks. Also how do I type in Kanji? IS there are program or is it a setting deal?What are the two different charts? One Japanese and the other Chinese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 This is exactly what I was looking for. It seems like Kanji is easier than the English alphabet but I guess I need the audio before it clicks. Also how do I type in Kanji? IS there are program or is it a setting deal?What are the two different charts? One Japanese and the other Chinese? 1st chart is Hirigana (Japanese writing) 2nd is Katakana Japanese writing of Foreign words; for example my name is not Japanese so it would be ?? (katakana)?not ?? (hiragana) as its a foreign word and hiragana wont be used.Neil is pronounced niru. This will explain it betterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiriganahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana were as Kanji is more Chinese style writing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji Such as ??(this is Kanji)?????(Hiragana)?Yokohama(romani) Kana is the Japanese writing systemhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kana this will explain how it works. on the other hand I know jack {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FourT6and2 Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 For me, Japanese was way easier to learn than Spanish or French. Rosetta Stone is BS. My best friend got it to learn Japanese but it was useless. 1. Learn the Hiragana alphabet.2. Learn the Katakana alphabet.3. Kanji is hard. Learn as much as you can.4. Study up on basic syntax, particles and grammar. This includes basic nouns, verbs, adjectives and the VERY important When/Where/Why/How/What.5. Make some Japanese friends and practice! Or audit a university/college Japanese language class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 For me, Japanese was way easier to learn than Spanish or French. Rosetta Stone is BS. My best friend got it to learn Japanese but it was useless. 1. Learn the Hiragana alphabet.2. Learn the Katakana alphabet.3. Kanji is hard. Learn as much as you can.4. Study up on basic syntax, particles and grammar. This includes basic nouns, verbs, adjectives and the VERY important When/Where/Why/How/What.5. Make some Japanese friends and practice!Or audit a university/college Japanese language class. This also try and remeber easy ways of saying things. for Example I remember Hajimema{censored}a (pleased to meet you) I remember as "hadmymashday" had my mash day. As FourT6and2 said the koko soko asoko doko is important as well as everything else he has put also I recomend the varies counting systems for time, date, objects as it all varies. Also in IT in Japan they want English speakers as its all Microsoft Sun Cisco so all in English (I worked for a US Communications / IT company in Tokyo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 I would teach them French and Greek <_> >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 16, 2010 Members Share Posted October 16, 2010 Japan looks like fun. It's the next country I want to visit, besides Germany and some of the Eastern european countries. Let me know if you some over. I also recommend Berlin, awesome city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 17, 2010 Members Share Posted October 17, 2010 also linguaphone Japanese in action is not too bad for the basics and pimsluer Japanese is not bad wither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 17, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 17, 2010 So most signs will be in Hirigana? So basically these different forms are like cursive and print writing, I take it. It seems a large part of the country can speak English as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FourT6and2 Posted October 17, 2010 Members Share Posted October 17, 2010 So most signs will be in Hirigana? So basically these different forms are like cursive and print writing, I take it. It seems a large part of the country can speak English as well. Depends on where you are. Large cities will have a lot of signs in English as well as Japanese. Hiragana is the Japanese phonetic language. Katakana is the phonetic language used for foreign (non-Japanese) words. Kanji are Chinese characters that communicate entire concepts and are not phonetic. I wouldn't rely on the Japanese' ability to speak English. It's better for you to assume nobody speaks English, even if they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 17, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 17, 2010 Depends on where you are. Large cities will have a lot of signs in English as well as Japanese. Hiragana is the Japanese phonetic language. Katakana is the phonetic language used for foreign (non-Japanese) words. Kanji are Chinese characters that communicate entire concepts and are not phonetic.I wouldn't rely on the Japanese' ability to speak English. It's better for you to assume nobody speaks English, even if they do. Thats why I am attempting to learn the language. So local busisneses and street signs would be in Hirigana and places like mcdonalds and Walmart would be in Katakana. And Kenji is the formal version of writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltaire Posted October 17, 2010 Members Share Posted October 17, 2010 ?????? ??????????????????????? ?????????????????? ???????????????????????????? TOO DRUNK TO REGISTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted October 17, 2010 Members Share Posted October 17, 2010 So most signs will be in Hirigana? So basically these different forms are like cursive and print writing, I take it. It seems a large part of the country can speak English as well.It will be a mixture, street names (like there are any) will be in Kanji.this is a sign on top a nursing school in shibuya you can see all the writing styles on the different signsAnother (funny) sign but look again at the Japanese its a mixture. Also FourT6and2 that was at the Hachik? dog, I bet at some point you have met someone there every one has.Again you can see all the different signs around and the writing styles as well as my blonde head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted October 17, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 17, 2010 well {censored} its like learning 3 different languages..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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