Members Cookie Monster Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 I've read a lot of conflicting information on which type of power amp is best to use with a modeler. Some say solid state is the way to go, while other say tube is it. Is there any consensus on this? I know from a cost perspective solid state is much less expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleewell Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 my preferecne is tube, just to add some warmth. if cost is a concern i would look for a peavey 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zacman0126 Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 It's probably the same holy grail of tone pandering that always happens around here. I wouldn't be surprised if someone chimes in saying a bogner fish, lawl. I imagine you'd be just as happy with a $200 rocktron, or peavey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleewell Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 It's probably the same holy grail of tone pandering that always happens around here. I wouldn't be surprised if someone chimes in saying a bogner fish, lawl. I imagine you'd be just as happy with a $200 rocktron, or peavey. yes except..... isnt the fish a preamp and the op was asking about poweramps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cookie Monster Posted December 23, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 How about this one? http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rocktron-Velocity-300-150W-Rack-Power-Amp?sku=584205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bktele989 Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 I had an older Rocktron 300. It was really transparent, gives back exactly what you give it, just really loud. Really heard the difference in multiple pre-amps with it. BUT, saying that, it did not work with processors very well for me, either the Zoom g9.2tt or a pod XT. I think they need a little something in the power amp to give it a more authentic feel. A MosValve power amp ended up doing the trick for me. I compared with a peavey 50/50 and mesa 2:90, and while the sound was noticeably more "tube-like", it did not justify the cost difference. Just my experience, YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zacman0126 Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 yes except..... isnt the fish a preamp and the op was asking about poweramps? Wow I must be out of it. I knew the fish is a preamp too and still posted that. derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satannica Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 Tube only! I've tried it through both and you just cannot beat a tube power amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordOVchaoS Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 The HD500 already has good power amp modeling, contrary to popular opinion I say go with something solid state and transparent. If you like the way it sounds direct, you will like it through a cab with solid state power. I used an SLA2 with my and it was perfect. Now I have a powered speaker and have ditched the amp/cab thing but IMO running a good modeler... that is modeling a tube power amp... through a tube power amp = mud. Tried it, SS wins. In the days of the XT, etc... I would have said tube but things have changed. Some people just refuse to accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 If you use a traditional cab, you might want to try more full range speakers in them. Eminence Beta 12 LTAhttp://eminence.com/proaudio_speaker_detail.asp?web_detail_link=BETA-12LTA&speaker_size=12&SUB_CAT_ID=2 Fane Sovereign 12http://www.fane-acoustics.com/prod_details.aspx?pid=204 Beyma 12GA50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordOVchaoS Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 If you use a traditional cab, you might want to try more full range speakers in them.Eminence Beta 12 LTAhttp://eminence.com/proaudio_speaker_detail.asp?web_detail_link=BETA-12LTA&speaker_size=12&SUB_CAT_ID=2Fane Sovereign 12http://www.fane-acoustics.com/prod_details.aspx?pid=204Beyma 12GA50 I read things like this almost daily and I ask, WHY? Are you speaking as if someone was wanting to use cab modeling? A guitar cab will never cut it, I don't care what speakers are in it. You would need a monitor or PA cab. If not, use a cab that you like that has speakers in it that you like. If you're eliminating cab modeling, why would you want "full range" speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zhorellski Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 Powered Speakers are FRFR kinda thingie http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Electro-Voice-ZXA190-Powered-PA-Speaker?sku=423344Orhttp://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/QSC-K10-10-Powered-PA-Speaker?sku=581517 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cookie Monster Posted December 23, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 Just so you know, I haven't even got the POD HD yet, but the truck is due here with it today. I wonder if I can turn off power amp and cab modeling, and run this thing through my Titan's clean channel and my 2x12 Hellatone 60L cab just for now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordOVchaoS Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 Just so you know, I haven't even got the POD HD yet, but the truck is due here with it today.I wonder if I can turn off power amp and cab modeling, and run this thing through my Titan's clean channel and my 2x12 Hellatone 60L cab just for now? Yes, you can do that... but I wouldn't recommend it. Run it into your effects loop return, effectively using your titan as a power amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cookie Monster Posted December 23, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 Yes, you can do that... but I wouldn't recommend it. Run it into your effects loop return, effectively using your titan as a power amp. That's what I planned to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LordOVchaoS Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 That's what I planned to do. Then do it Use the POD a a preamp only and you'll like the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 I read things like this almost daily and I ask, WHY?Are you speaking as if someone was wanting to use cab modeling? A guitar cab will never cut it, I don't care what speakers are in it. You would need a monitor or PA cab.If not, use a cab that you like that has speakers in it that you like. If you're eliminating cab modeling, why would you want "full range" speakers? You don't have to have pa speakers with horns etc. Use the fuller range speakers in any guitar cab. They roll off like at 8K or so and work well using a SS power amp with modeler even with cab emulation active. You don't get the fizz or noise of a horn or compression driver either. That's how our other guitarist ran his rig. I did that with the snax and a pair of 1x12 peavey's (took out the scorpions). Sounds a lot better than disabling cab models too. On my GSP1101 with speaker comp active globally, it's even better. IIRC that speaker comp is a shelf filter that cuts freq above 7k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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