Members Elemenope Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Your thoughts? This was a discussion in another post. I just wanted to see what most people think. And I am not taking about a boosted DSL. I'm talking bare bones DSL tone. Of course you can make just about any amp sound more metal/hardcore with a boost. Imo I don't think they are good for metal/hardcore. Even with a boost I still think they sound crappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Im gonna pass on any marshall post 1989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 I think the DSL would work great for that. It excels at heavy music. One of Marshall's best amps, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pioneerprogress Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Well really, playing a certain style doesn't dictate that you have to sound exactly like everyone else. I sure don't try to. In that respect, yes I would use a plain ol' DSL for that kind of music. You might possibly even be able to pull it off trying to sound like somebody else. But I don't believe they get as over-the-top as something like a 5150 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DannyDedalo Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Would! Maybe not the best in the most extreme styles, but i bet it fit the most...buy hey! i only use the vintage mode on my rectifier, not teh brootlz anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oryan Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 The answer is yes, a DSL will work for Metal/Hardcore.....I used it for a Metal band i was in and it worked just fine. IMO it's not the ideal amp for Metal, but it can definitely do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maneatingapple Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Yes you can do it. I had to run my mids on 10 to get the grind I wanted, but it pulled it off just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 ask Nile if DSL's cant do metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markdude Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 If DSLs sound crappy for just about anything, you're doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnpace2 Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 DSL's are great amps for HC/Punk/Metal. Why the no boosting constraint? I boost every amp I own (gain off, level maxed) except the CCV. IMO, boosting adds a little tightness, etc but doesn't really alter the tone of the amp too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 It would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Our rhythm player/singer uses a DSL and 1960A cab w/v30's and it does a GREAT brit/thrash thing but it's a VERY different beast than the 5150. I think teh DSL CAN do metal but it'll just sound different. Not worse, just different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BenoA Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 The answer is yes, a DSL will work for Metal/Hardcore.....I used it for a Metal band i was in and it worked just fine. Same here and still own it. Easy to dial, cuts throught the mix very well. Need a bit more gain, easy, just use your favorite OD. BTW, DSL likes to be crancked!!! Go ahead and rock out!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted March 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 DSL's are great amps for HC/Punk/Metal. Why the no boosting constraint? I boost every amp I own (gain off, level maxed) except the CCV. IMO, boosting adds a little tightness, etc but doesn't really alter the tone of the amp too much. I don't feel like the Marshall has enough gain on its own to do metal. I feel like with my DSL no matter how I use my settings it always has a certain sound to it that just not metal enough for me. If I play this thing next to my bro who is using my 6505+ the Marshall gets blown out of the water. I guess I gotta agee to some extent that the Marshall can do metal...But it's not ideal. The reason I said specifically no boosts is because people on another thread were naming metal bands who use the DSL for metal. Someone mentioned Hatebreed. And I'm thinking how much does a band like that boost though? You can make any amp sound metal if you boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 The reason I said specifically no boosts is because people on another thread were naming metal bands who use the DSL for metal. Someone mentioned Hatebreed. And I'm thinking how much does a band like that boost though? You can make any amp sound metal if you boost. hatebreed uses tsl's and they dont boost at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members again with this Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 ask Nile if DSL's cant do metal. This. Hatebreed too? Or are they TSL..? Nile alone should give you a resounding YES! Fuck I'm diggin' Nile lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markdude Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 I don't feel like the Marshall has enough gain on its own to do metal. I feel like with my DSL no matter how I use my settings it always has a certain sound to it that just not metal enough for me. If I play this thing next to my bro who is using my 6505+ the Marshall gets blown out of the water. I guess I gotta agee to some extent that the Marshall can do metal...But it's not ideal. The reason I said specifically no boosts is because people on another thread were naming metal bands who use the DSL for metal. Someone mentioned Hatebreed. And I'm thinking how much does a band like that boost though? You can make any amp sound metal if you boost. Dude, I think maybe you have bad preamp tubes or something. I borrowed a DSL for a while and the red channel had TONS of gain. If you don't like the voicing, fair enough, but if gain was lacking...I think maybe there was a problem with the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted March 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Dude, I think maybe you have bad preamp tubes or something. I borrowed a DSL for a while and the red channel had TONS of gain. If you don't like the voicing, fair enough, but if gain was lacking...I think maybe there was a problem with the amp. Could be. I mean I had the thing tubed and biased about 2 years ago...But I don't think I've played it but maybe once a month since. But then on the other hand after owning a 6505 also I bet its just the voicing that I hate. The cleans are beautiful. I even think this would be a great amp for AC/DC rock. But its gain just sounds like turd compared to the 6505. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted March 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 hatebreed uses tsl's and they dont boost at all http://www.uberproaudio.com/who-plays-what/737-hatebreed-wayne-lozinak-guitar-rig-gear-and-equipment Uses a Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive pedal. So yeh he is boosting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members again with this Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Lookin for a new toy to drive out the In-laws LMNOP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted March 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Lookin for a new toy to drive out the In-laws LMNOP? I've actually got a blackstar at the post office that I'm gonna pick up after work. Hopefully that will do the trick. But I doub't my cab will get to me for another week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peeehooo Posted March 31, 2011 Members Share Posted March 31, 2011 Obviously you don't like the DSL so get an 6505 or whatever you like... But to answer your original question, many people think DSL sounds good for metal and hardcore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted April 1, 2011 Members Share Posted April 1, 2011 http://www.uberproaudio.com/who-plays-what/737-hatebreed-wayne-lozinak-guitar-rig-gear-and-equipmentUses a Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive pedal. So yeh he is boosting. wayne is a buddy of mine, he lives a few streets away from me. im actually going to meet him at the strip joint in a few, ill ask him. i know they used unboosted tsl's in the past though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tommy Horrible Posted April 1, 2011 Members Share Posted April 1, 2011 I don't feel like the Marshall has enough gain on its own to do metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ovid9 Posted April 1, 2011 Members Share Posted April 1, 2011 Tommy, you're needed over in the best amp for hardcore thread. I don't have the heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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