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  • #31
    As you can see from this thread, expect to get **************** from people about your decision for years. My advice? If you're determined to not have kids, get a vasectomy. That way if the wife changes her mind in 5 years, you can get it reversed. Much easier than reversing a tubal.



    My wife and I made the same decision, and we're both close to 40. At first, yeah - we'd hear the comments - how we'd regret our decision, how selfish we are, etc. I suspect that is how secretly dissatisfied people express their frustration. But then we've heard the other side:



    "You two are so lucky you don't have kids."

    "You get to do everything you want."

    "I wish my wife and I could travel like you two do."



    My decision was based on the fact that there is a high risk of mutation on my side. My wife has no patience with kids. Additionally, I have even less patience with kids that don't behave. Some kids behave well, some kids do whatever the hell they want. That, I could not handle. My little brother was born when I was 16; I lived at home until he was 7. I know exactly what is required to raise a child; I assisted with that job at a very impressionable age. That's not for me.



    There is also the hazard of a woman having a child after age 35. Developmental risks go up considerably. One of my best friends - a woman I've known for 20 years - just had her 2nd at age 38. Baby was born with a ton of problems, including Down's Syndrome. That pretty much crushed her. It's hard to see someone you care about go through that.



    But if you feel relieved after coming to grips with the "no kids ever" decision - more power to ya. You don't owe the world more people. It's not a selfish decision, because you're not taking anything away from anyone. You're doing what you see fit with your life, and that's something a lot of morans don't ever consider doing.



    And yes, my 2 seater sports car is my daily driver.
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    If the world didn't suck, we would fall off.









    Originally Posted by PerfectTommy


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    • #32






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      • #33






        Quote Originally Posted by schismed
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        Youre not even old enough to come to this decision. You are old enough to be acting so immature, and selfish, though.



        Piece of advice; stick to this decision!

        The world has enough selfish people. No doubt your children would be just like you.







        Oh, God. Go **************** yourself.



        EDIT: Actually, since I can't really tell if you're just joking I'll rephrase: What was implied in the post I quoted is something that only a person who needs to go **************** themselves would say.
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        • #34






          Quote Originally Posted by schismed
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          Youre not even old enough to come to this decision. You are old enough to be acting so immature, and selfish, though.



          Piece of advice; stick to this decision!

          The world has enough selfish people. No doubt your children would be just like you.







          Wow. Just wow. You are without a doubt one of the biggest cockbags on this forum. I mean I am just blown away. Do you think your kids will grow up to be judgmental, self righteous pricks like yourself?
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          • #35
            Wife's mind will change when OP puts her on Maury Povich cuz he's knocked up a brazilian hooker. i call it now
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            • #36






              Quote Originally Posted by OverDriven
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              Wow. Just wow. You are without a doubt one of the biggest cockbags on this forum. I mean I am just blown away. Do you think your kids will grow up to be judgmental, self righteous pricks like yourself?




              There was actually a thread on this board specifically about people with kids judging people without kids. It was pretty universally agreed that "older" parents (40+ aged people) are self-righteous ****************************s when it comes to people who choose to not have kids. And I mean, if you don't have kids be fully prepared to go the entirety of the rest of your life having parents act like you're the scum of the Earth for 'not perpetuating the species'/'condemning your bloodline'.
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              • #37
                It's a tough call, Op, but in the end, you have to do what is best for you guys. I love my kids but I'll say it right now, not a day goes by that they dontbdo something inane enough to make meant to punch an adult who wouldndo the same thing. Of course, i have zero tolerance for F ups, even though I strive every day to be less like my mother. That being said, my kids usually do enough awesome things to balance it out for me. I just took my daughter for a walk on the 80 acres the nlaws own so she could see if the turtles were in the pond and as I held her hand I realized that these are the memories that will stand out for her, they already stand out for me.



                That being said, living like a couple who can do what they want, when they want to, sounds cool as well. As long as you and your wife agree, screw other people's opinions.
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                • #38






                  Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Two Tone
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                  There was actually a thread on this board specifically about people with kids judging people without kids. It was pretty universally agreed that "older" parents (40+ aged people) are self-righteous ****************************s when it comes to people who choose to not have kids. And I mean, if you don't have kids be fully prepared to go the entirety of the rest of your life having parents act like you're the scum of the Earth for 'not perpetuating the species'/'condemning your bloodline'.




                  While that may be the case for some I dont believe I fit that mold. If the 2 of them do not want to have kids its their decision. Not ours.

                  I just felt the reasoning behind the decision was a little selfish. My opinion, Im entitled to it just like you are yours.
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                  • #39






                    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Two Tone
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                    Oh, God. Go **************** yourself.



                    EDIT: Actually, since I can't really tell if you're just joking I'll rephrase: What was implied in the post I quoted is something that only a person who needs to go **************** themselves would say.




                    Another punk ass kid hiding behind a keyboard.



                    Sad!
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                    • #40






                      Quote Originally Posted by schismed
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                      While that may be the case for some I dont believe I fit that mold. If the 2 of them do not want to have kids its their decision. Not ours.

                      I just felt the reasoning behind the decision was a little selfish. My opinion, Im entitled to it just like you are yours.




                      I don't think its' selfish - I'd say it's responsible, when you look at the rise in global population. We should have far more people making this decision. My opinion, I'm entitled to it just like you are yours.
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                      • #41
                        I have no kids
                        Im a little older than the op but only 3 or 4 years
                        I want tax concessions for not having kids, that would be good, I pump massive amounts of taxes into the economy and get NOTHING for it, but thats another story.


                        Other than that, I am at an airport now, my girlfriend of 9 years is in my inner city townhouse with my 2 sports cars (shes a forensic accountant)
                        Im heading over seas (im in Australia) for the 4th time this year, on almost no notice, will add a week of basically free overseas holidays onto the end of my 2 day working engagement
                        I spend pretty much every weeknight sleeping in hotels, and take a jet to work for 2000 mile flights within australia every week
                        I have a million frequent flyer points, enough for 8 round the world tickets etc. you get the idea!

                        But....
                        when I am home on weekends, I have nothing at all to do, everyone else my age has kids and became fatherly and motherly
                        They all live some place im too afraid to park my cars, but they have huge gardens, with lush green lawns, a pool and dogs etc.

                        So
                        Pick a life

                        1. Rich arrogant yuppie **************************** DINKS (double income no kids), which I am
                        2. Family guy with kids, pets etc who hangs out with other family guys and grills stuff and resuscitates their kids after they drown in their pools etc.

                        YOU CANT HAVE BOTH

                        Once those kids pop out, my extensive evidence and research tells me, you are now option 2, chemically your mind is altered
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                        • #42
                          Youre not even old enough to come to this decision. You are old enough to be acting so immature, and selfish, though.

                          Piece of advice; stick to this decision!
                          The world has enough selfish people. No doubt your children would be just like you.



                          It's not your decision to make. Stop being a dick about the way other people want to live their lives. They're not hurting anyone... Well except for you... You're getting pretty butthurt.
                          Originally Posted by thinkpad20


                          Then why'd you make this thread?









                          Originally Posted by Stevenexp








                          Originally Posted by The Scorpion


                          No, everybody is going to pretend I never made this thread.



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                          • #43
                            Another punk ass kid hiding behind a keyboard.

                            Sad!


                            You're a ****************ing dweeb.

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                            • #44
                              Another punk ass kid hiding behind a keyboard.

                              Sad!


                              butthurtz has ensued once again...

                              not saying i support the OP's opinion either though.
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                              • #45
                                So, the wife and I have decided to never have children.

                                It's weird, I've always thought of it as one of those things I'll do it and some unspecified time in the future - you know, have a bit of fun now then get serious and have kids.

                                With some introspection I've realised I don't want any kids. Turns out the wife feels the same way.

                                We feel they take over your lives - time-wise, responsibility, financially. Kind of like it's been hanging over your head - you know, gotta get a good job so we can get a house for the kids when we have them,l have to get a family car etc. **************** that, I want a 2 seater and a home cinema

                                We want to travel, to spend our money on ourselves - live for each other and not another person who is 100% dependent on us.

                                We're 29 and 30, so not that young

                                We will live the lives of homosexual couples - nice clothes, furniture, food, cars and holidays and when we're old we'll sell our house and live off the cash and not worry about having to leave an inheritance. Round the world cruise!



                                I only got one thing to say. Financially, you will never have enough money unless you're dirt poor. Even my wealthy to do friends complain how much they eat up money when it comes to kids. There is just no price to pay when it comes to a kid.
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