Members DTrane Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 Im gonna use it with a Viintage Club 50 with EL84's The cab already has 4 v30's and I want to use 2 of them in a different cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShizzelDizzel Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 I'd say no. The vintage 30's are more efficient and will seem louder esp since they also have themid bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sled Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 I'd say no. The vintage 30's are more efficient and will seem louder esp since they also have themid bump.What does this matter? Both will flavor the tone. The V30 may have a dominate role in some frequencies and the GB will in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 I'd say no. The vintage 30's are more efficient and will seem louder esp since they also have themid bump. True, but try them in the cab and see, depends on the amp and the EQ pushing to the speakers. You can also try putting both greenbacks at the top of the cab and V30's at the bottom. X pattern is awesome, but its only effective when the speakers are matched properly, so is SBS (side by side). Top& bottom works best with a slant cab too, but will work fine with a standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 What does this matter? Both will flavor the tone. The V30 may have a dominate role in some frequencies and the GB will in others. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShizzelDizzel Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 I don't think you'll hear much of the greenback though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gsxrbusa Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 I don't think you'll hear much of the greenback though. Yep. I have done the v30/GB X pattern and the V30 killz the GB. Domination is a good description. I love the GB but they don't mix well with the V30 IMO. I have a pair of WGS Invaders coming monday. They are a 50w clone of the GB. Curious to see if they mix any better with a V30. I can let u dudes know how it turns out........if you care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gsxrbusa Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 True, but try them in the cab and see, depends on the amp and the EQ pushing to the speakers. You can also try putting both greenbacks at the top of the cab and V30's at the bottom. X pattern is awesome, but its only effective when the speakers are matched properly, so is SBS (side by side). Top& bottom works best with a slant cab too, but will work fine with a standard. I need to try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fr0sty Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 They will sound good together. I have a cab with gb's and one with v30xg12h30. I sometimes run my mark v through them at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seajay Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 Don't do the x-pattern. Put the less efficient Greenies in the top 2 slots & the V30s in the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thenakedarab Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 Im gonna use it with a Viintage Club 50 with EL84'sThe cab already has 4 v30's and I want to use 2 of them in a different cab V30 and G12H30 are a better mix efficiency wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 V30 and G12H30 are a better mix efficiency wise. And also work well if you want a full range cab - scooped mids and enhanced bass+treble from the H30, mid spike from the V30. That said, I've done a bit of speaker mixing over the last 18 months and honestly I don't think there's much point now. I'd rather have a cab of identical speakers so you can dial in a tone that works with that speaker voicing, rather than having to compromise to get something that works with both speakers. Mixing speakers makes sense if you want a bigger sonic footprint, but in a band mix there's rarely any need for that. I'd rather enjoy the character of one kind of speaker in the cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 i can't imagine it: here's why. greenbacks: softish bassv30's: softish bassgreenbacks: texturally wonderful-- but FR limited. loads o' mids.. but soft.v30's: texturally aggressive and in no way soft. anywhere. save the bottom.greenbacks: sometimes toppy, sometimes not.v30's: always super gritty in the upper mids.poorly matched efficiencies. MAYBE in some circumstance someplace this would make for a good combo, but i can scarce imagine that circumstance. i can think of a lot better matches-- but if you want all midrange.. hell-- that'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spaced Out Ace Posted September 24, 2011 Members Share Posted September 24, 2011 Isn't an H30 a mix of a V30 and a GB? Just get that... EDIT: Or mix H30s and GBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TruSlice Posted September 25, 2011 Members Share Posted September 25, 2011 An ET65/Vet30 combo should cure your cravings for greenback and Vintage 30 toans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seattle Doug Posted September 25, 2011 Members Share Posted September 25, 2011 An ET65/Vet30 combo should cure your cravings for greenback and Vintage 30 toans Well, if you get a chance to try it, I'd be interested to come back here and read your post about how you like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members K-Bizzle Posted September 25, 2011 Members Share Posted September 25, 2011 Well, if you get a chance to try it, I'd be interested to come back here and read your post about how you like it. I've seen quite a few folks on here pushing that mix. Personally as awesome as it can sound I've gotten out of mixing speakers for 2 reasons: 1) Like Cirrus said, having to compromise in how you dial in the amp. Sometimes you'll just fight and fight the amp if the match isn't a good fit. Presence being a good example here, some speakers sound great with a ton of it, some become ice picks. 2) LIVE. Live live live. If you're a big touring band with your own soundman mixing speakers is fine I suppose because the soundman can mic them both and put them properly in the mix.Now for the rest/most of us when you're getting miced they only do one speaker. So you're only getting half your sound out there anyway. Not only that but you have dialed in the whole rig standing to the mix of the speakers not the sound of the single speaker that is miced. See #1 for why this might suck. Now if you just have to mix I highly recommend the V30/H30 combo. It just sounds outright sick. The efficiencies match so neither dominates and they just create a great CRUNCH together.Of all the mixes I ever tried this is was the best. All that said I used to have a VHT 4x12 that came with the V30/Greenback mix.VHT put the greenies on top and V30s on bottom. I eventually put them in an X and that was a mistake.I did a vid of it at the time with my Voodoo DSL 100, I'm not a fan of it really but here you go. [video=youtube;v2Bl8lLMtPk] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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