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  • Are V30 and Greenbacks in a 4x12 Closed Cab a Good Combination?

    Im gonna use it with a Viintage Club 50 with EL84's

    The cab already has 4 v30's and I want to use 2 of them in a different cab

  • #2
    Yes.
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    • #3
      I'd say no. The vintage 30's are more efficient and will seem louder esp since they also have the
      mid bump.
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      • #4
        I'd say no. The vintage 30's are more efficient and will seem louder esp since they also have the
        mid bump.
        What does this matter? Both will flavor the tone. The V30 may have a dominate role in some frequencies and the GB will in others.
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        • #5
          I'd say no. The vintage 30's are more efficient and will seem louder esp since they also have the
          mid bump.


          True, but try them in the cab and see, depends on the amp and the EQ pushing to the speakers. You can also try putting both greenbacks at the top of the cab and V30's at the bottom. X pattern is awesome, but its only effective when the speakers are matched properly, so is SBS (side by side). Top& bottom works best with a slant cab too, but will work fine with a standard.
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          • #6
            What does this matter? Both will flavor the tone. The V30 may have a dominate role in some frequencies and the GB will in others.


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            • #7
              I don't think you'll hear much of the greenback though.
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              • #8
                I don't think you'll hear much of the greenback though.


                Yep. I have done the v30/GB X pattern and the V30 killz the GB. Domination is a good description. I love the GB but they don't mix well with the V30 IMO.

                I have a pair of WGS Invaders coming monday. They are a 50w clone of the GB. Curious to see if they mix any better with a V30. I can let u dudes know how it turns out........if you care.
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                • #9
                  True, but try them in the cab and see, depends on the amp and the EQ pushing to the speakers. You can also try putting both greenbacks at the top of the cab and V30's at the bottom. X pattern is awesome, but its only effective when the speakers are matched properly, so is SBS (side by side). Top& bottom works best with a slant cab too, but will work fine with a standard.



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                  • #10
                    They will sound good together. I have a cab with gb's and one with v30xg12h30. I sometimes run my mark v through them at the same time.

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                    • #11
                      Don't do the x-pattern. Put the less efficient Greenies in the top 2 slots & the V30s in the bottom.
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                      • #12
                        Im gonna use it with a Viintage Club 50 with EL84's

                        The cab already has 4 v30's and I want to use 2 of them in a different cab


                        V30 and G12H30 are a better mix efficiency wise.
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                        • #13
                          V30 and G12H30 are a better mix efficiency wise.


                          And also work well if you want a full range cab - scooped mids and enhanced bass+treble from the H30, mid spike from the V30.

                          That said, I've done a bit of speaker mixing over the last 18 months and honestly I don't think there's much point now. I'd rather have a cab of identical speakers so you can dial in a tone that works with that speaker voicing, rather than having to compromise to get something that works with both speakers.

                          Mixing speakers makes sense if you want a bigger sonic footprint, but in a band mix there's rarely any need for that. I'd rather enjoy the character of one kind of speaker in the cab.
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                          • #14
                            i can't imagine it: here's why.

                            greenbacks: softish bass
                            v30's: softish bass
                            greenbacks: texturally wonderful-- but FR limited. loads o' mids.. but soft.
                            v30's: texturally aggressive and in no way soft. anywhere. save the bottom.
                            greenbacks: sometimes toppy, sometimes not.
                            v30's: always super gritty in the upper mids.
                            poorly matched efficiencies.

                            MAYBE in some circumstance someplace this would make for a good combo, but i can scarce imagine that circumstance. i can think of a lot better matches-- but if you want all midrange.. hell-- that'd do it.

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                            • #15
                              Isn't an H30 a mix of a V30 and a GB? Just get that...

                              EDIT: Or mix H30s and GBs.

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