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  • Blackstar Series One 104 6L6

    I just wanted to say I had the displeasure of recording one of these the other day. I could not get a good sound out of it for love nor money.
    I tried three different cabs.

    75's
    Greenies
    V30's

    All sounded rubbish.
    Every mic placement I used sounded rubbish and there was a very harsh top to the sound that just made the amp sound thin. I struggled to get any usable thickness from the low mids without it sounding muddy and the gain was fizzy.

    What an absolute crock.

    Bare in mind it was being played loud in a live room with good mics into a high end analogue console with Trident style vintage eq and also a valve preamp into other outboard before hitting PTHD.

    So it's not like I was just recording with an iPhone or something....

    But I digress...

    This was easily one of the worst amps I have had to record.
    Most good amps aren't too fussy how they're mic'd and I do tend to judge all this stuff from an engineers standpoint quite often nowadays. A rectifier, 800, Plexi, Twin etc. all record beautifully. Slap a mic on them and they'll always sound good.

    This....

    Not so much.

    Anyone love these amps? I thought it was pony.

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    I have always been partial to the HT Series stuff to the Series One..

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    • #3
      Tried one out, sounded like bag of dicks

      Side of cheese.
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      • #4
        worst modern amp i've tried, Blackstar fail again.
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        • #5
          I always hear the Series One was horrid
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          • #6
            Im horrified to hear this

            I have never heard a S1, but i love all the HT-venue series.
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            • #7
              Tried one out, sounded like bag of dicks

              Side of cheese.



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              • #8
                Funny how you and Timmy bash black star amps on a regular basis
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                • #9
                  Funny how you and Timmy bash black star amps on a regular basis


                  We frequent the same studio often Neil and seeing as I record bands that use Blackstars and Tim tours or does shows with lots of bands that seem to be using them, I think we are allowed an opinion.


                  Also, judging by the thread it's not just me and Tim bashing them.

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                  • #10
                    We frequent the same studio often Neil and seeing as I record bands that use Blackstars and Tim tours or does shows with lots of bands that seem to be using them, I think we are allowed an opinion.


                    Also, judging by the thread it's not just me and Tim bashing them.



                    I have played a lot of gigs myself and also worked as an engineer an so yes I agree you have an opinion, but I guess I don't trust it so much since you said you change some bands drums for samples with out telling them. But that's another story, and I do like the tones you get.

                    But what did you do to get the tones you wanted, did you bring down the gain and boost it with a pedal with a higher midrange or did you use the clean channel (which is very good) an use a distortion pedal? Or how about an eq in the loop?

                    I don't like all blackstar amps but I think they are very usable. And I still love my HT-dual pedal (though I will admit it sounds even better if hit with a midrange strong boost pedal for solo's)
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                    • #11
                      I've heard better tones from the HT series than the Series one. The HT-5 and HT-20 are the only amps that I'd have any interest in owning.
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                      • #12
                        I've heard better tones from the HT series than the Series one. The HT-5 and HT-20 are the only amps that I'd have any interest in owning.


                        This is often what I hear. The pedals are phenomenal..the Series One amps are horrid. All the clips I've ever heard suck too. Which is a shame because I was hoping for big things with the 200 watt one
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                        • #13
                          It would have been good if it paved the way for more of the big hitters to start using 6550/KT88s again but I think the opportunity has been pissed away.
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                          • #14
                            The new HT-5 head with Reverb interests me quite a bit..

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                            • #15
                              I have played a lot of gigs myself and also worked as an engineer an so yes I agree you have an opinion, but I guess I don't trust it so much since you said you change some bands drums for samples with out telling them. But that's another story, and I do like the tones you get.

                              But what did you do to get the tones you wanted, did you bring down the gain and boost it with a pedal with a higher midrange or did you use the clean channel (which is very good) an use a distortion pedal? Or how about an eq in the loop?

                              I don't like all blackstar amps but I think they are very usable. And I still love my HT-dual pedal (though I will admit it sounds even better if hit with a midrange strong boost pedal for solo's)



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