Members SweepLegatto Posted December 28, 2011 Members Share Posted December 28, 2011 It will be , dark, bright, ou neutral. What most influences the tone of a guitar, the wood of the body or the wood of the arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted December 28, 2011 Members Share Posted December 28, 2011 I had a JS1000 and a Jem777FP that were basswood and rosewood. No dominant frequencies IME. Very neutral sounding guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted December 28, 2011 Members Share Posted December 28, 2011 depends. Even high end MIJ Ibanezes vary wildly in tonal character. It comes down to the individual piece of wood. IME, generally, they are "neutral", and respond to pickup changes very well. BTW, my absolute best is a white '87 RG550 that tends to the barely bright side. I also have an 87 Desert Yellow RG550 that tends to the slightly darker/mellow side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Filter500 Posted December 28, 2011 Members Share Posted December 28, 2011 Neutral with a pronounced midrange and the high treble rolled off a bit. Both the body and neck influence tone enough to consider both with care in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ManofWar55 Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 My RG changes with every amp I put it into. But it does have one defining character...it always sounds great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 IMO basswood is typically very neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members draelyc Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 Y'all makin' me want to bust out my old RG470 from 1992! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ENdtime Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 Neutral with a pronounced midrange and the high treble rolled off a bit. Both the body and neck influence tone enough to consider both with care in my opinion. Pretty much spot on. And I disagree with ibanez(or basswood) varying wildly. Basswood, to me is a very consistant wood. The biggest difference between ibanez will be the quality of the trems/bridge and the neck construction. Otherwise basswood with a maple neck and rosewood board should have an even tone which should yield nice string separation and a slightly rolled off high end with nice midrange. my 87 MiJ Fender HM strat has these specs and it's a tone I really like.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 Pretty much spot on. And I disagree with ibanez(or basswood) varying wildly. Basswood, to me is a very consistant wood. The biggest difference between ibanez will be the quality of the trems/bridge and the neck construction. Otherwise basswood with a maple neck and rosewood board should have an even tone which should yield nice string separation and a slightly rolled off high end with nice midrange. my 87 MiJ Fender HM strat has these specs and it's a tone I really like.. irrelevant. If an Ibanez doesn't have an Edge or a Lo Pro Edge, it isn't a guitar. Plus, it should be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 I would define the tone as woody and juicy, with sustain for days and plenty of gain on tap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 Pretty much spot on. And I disagree with ibanez(or basswood) varying wildly. Basswood, to me is a very consistant wood. The biggest difference between ibanez will be the quality of the trems/bridge and the neck construction. Otherwise basswood with a maple neck and rosewood board should have an even tone which should yield nice string separation and a slightly rolled off high end with nice midrange. my 87 MiJ Fender HM strat has these specs and it's a tone I really like.. My UV777 and RG7260 sound wildly different, both basswood with maple necks and rosewood boards. Same Lo-Pro 7 bridge. My RG560 also sounds different to both of those. The UV is the darkest and warmest sounding, the RG7620 has a somewhat strange kinda bright midrangey thing going on, and the RG560 is fairly "neutral" sounding. They all sound great, but they do all sound different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 My UV777 and RG7260 sound wildly different, both basswood with maple necks and rosewood boards. Same Lo-Pro 7 bridge. My RG560 also sounds different to both of those. The UV is the darkest and warmest sounding, the RG7620 has a somewhat strange kinda bright midrangey thing going on, and the RG560 is fairly "neutral" sounding. They all sound great, but they do all sound different. {censored}in A. I've owned around 13 MIJ Basswood Ibanezes. They all sounded different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 {censored}in A. I've owned around 13 MIJ Basswood Ibanezes. They all sounded different. Yep. They all might sound great in their own ways, but they're definitely not all the same, even amongst the higher end models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kardula Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 I had a JS1000 and a Jem777FP that were basswood and rosewood. No dominant frequencies IME. Very neutral sounding guitars. That's almost exactly what I was thinking. They weren't really impressive to me, I want a guitar that sounds monstrous and has something distinct....based on interviews with satch, the lack of distinction I think is what draws him to those guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ENdtime Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 {censored}in A.I've owned around 13 MIJ Basswood Ibanezes. They all sounded different. Haven't owned that many, but basswood is a really consistent wood. Same with poplar. In comparison to other common guitar building Woods like mahogany or ash. I would compare 2 of the same guitar range/same year rather than a $2000 Universe vs. the cheaper Rg. I can see on my Rg 7 string up to 5 glue lines in the body. My buddy has a Universe and it is noticeably darker and warmer sounding. Much like how Deadnight mentioned. Which would say that result is at least consistent. ;-) . I would doubt the Universe has a 4 or 5 piece glue up. Also I think the Universe has a thicker neck and is made of multiple pieces, if I remember correct. I'm not sure tho. And I'm not saying Basswood or any other wood for that matter, isnt unique from piece to piece since no tree is identical, but as a woodworker I can say Basswood is generally considered to be pretty consistent.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members magh8 Posted December 29, 2011 Members Share Posted December 29, 2011 I always found basswood to be very flat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shred-o-holic Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 So far basswood guitars to me sound very weak compared to mahogany tone wise. I've had 2 JP6's and now this Ibanez RG 1421F and they all have the same I would say lack nuggets or balls to them. I'm currently on a pickup quest with the RG and am on my 4th pickup change.....the best being a Duncan Custom. Right now I've got a BKP Nailbomb and it's coming out for the BKP Warpig that's on the way. I hope that adds some balls to the situation........"I would define the tone as woody and juicy, with sustain for days and plenty of gain on tap"? I say WTF to that opinion so far.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DEADBYDAWN Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 I would define the tone as woody and juicy, with sustain for days and plenty of gain on tap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shred-o-holic Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 I triple your with a :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members whamtone Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 "I would define the tone as woody and juicy, with sustain for days and plenty of gain on tap"? I say WTF to that opinion so far.... "and it has the aggressive styling to make you stand out..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Neutered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shred-o-holic Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Neutered That was the word I was searching for......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scratchie Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 juicy, with sustain for days and plenty of gain on tap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 ^ that guitar is {censored}ing awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RiffDaemon Posted December 30, 2011 Members Share Posted December 30, 2011 Gassy thread is gassy. My wallet is screaming at me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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