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  • So I scored a Marshall 1887X today and compared it to my JVM.

    I scored a 1987X today for $900 bucks and I played it against my JVM tonight. The first thing that I noticed is how ****************ing thick and chewy the amp was compared to the JVM. I have always been a fan of the Marshall crunch sounds and I own a DSL , JVM410H, and a Laney AOR 50 watt. The first thing I noticed comparing the JVM and the RI, is that the 1987 is a ****************ing monster at thick mid gain tones. That being said the RI has to have a good bit of volume to reach that Holy **************** tone. I love my JVM and the crunch channel on red can get pretty close to that dimed Plexi sound, but once I got the RI above 4 , I can honestly say that is the Marshall tone hands down. I love the options of my JVM, but the 1987 at volume is hands down the best mid gain/crunch sound I have ever had. The thing that sucks is now I want to sell the JVM and RI to buy a legit Plexi. What model Plexi would you suggest???
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    Originally Posted by madryan


    That's the problem with Marshalls... They cut right through.

    "

    B.) Bending a woman over and seeing sphincter art is pretty much a clear signal that she wants you to salt the Devil's Onion Ring.









    Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy


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  • #2
    The RI is a legit plexi Glad you like it I love them.

    In before the JVM haters
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    • #3
      Excuse my typing , I have had a few tonight. Seriously the Plexi is a monster but it has to be loud as ****************. What would be some more options without killing my ears?? The JVM is great, but once you play the Plexi , it just sounds like a toy.
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      Originally Posted by madryan


      That's the problem with Marshalls... They cut right through.

      "

      B.) Bending a woman over and seeing sphincter art is pretty much a clear signal that she wants you to salt the Devil's Onion Ring.









      Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy


      Kinda how I quit drinking for a long time. That was lame so I started again

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      • #4
        The JVM wins hands down as far as high gain, but the RI has a crunch that is god like, LOL! Where is Ricky Bobby??? Are you still using your RI?
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        Originally Posted by madryan


        That's the problem with Marshalls... They cut right through.

        "

        B.) Bending a woman over and seeing sphincter art is pretty much a clear signal that she wants you to salt the Devil's Onion Ring.









        Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy


        Kinda how I quit drinking for a long time. That was lame so I started again

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        • #5
          There are a couple of options for getting that tone at a lower volume. You could go with a PPMIV, an attenuator, and powerscaling. Using the right speakers can help too.

          I went with the powerscaling option with my Fargen Miniplex MKII (it uses London Power scaling) and have been very satisfied.
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          • #6
            Yes, but before we can consider your opinion - have you owned 50 Marshalls?
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            • #7
              I own a 50 watt DSL, and a Laney AOR 50 watt. I know that those are different amps, but I can get the same tones out of all of them. The JVM has a tad more lows and punch over the DSL, but the 1987X just sounds massive. It also sounds good with both single coils and humbuckers. I just got used to my JVM having the cleans and crunch with the FX/loop that could be assigned to each channel without being louder than my drummer. That being said, the Plexi reacts so good to my single coil and humbucker guitars. Is there a model or mod that would give me a switchable clean??
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              Originally Posted by madryan


              That's the problem with Marshalls... They cut right through.

              "

              B.) Bending a woman over and seeing sphincter art is pretty much a clear signal that she wants you to salt the Devil's Onion Ring.









              Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy


              Kinda how I quit drinking for a long time. That was lame so I started again

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              • #8
                I own a 50 watt DSL, and a Laney AOR 50 watt. I know that those are different amps, but I can get the same tones out of all of them. The JVM has a tad more lows and punch over the DSL, but the 1987X just sounds massive. It also sounds good with both single coils and humbuckers. I just got used to my JVM having the cleans and crunch with the FX/loop that could be assigned to each channel without being louder than my drummer. That being said, the Plexi reacts so good to my single coil and humbucker guitars. Is there a model or mod that would give me a switchable clean??



                Volume knob on your guitar.

                And a boost
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                • #9
                  If you want footswitchable clean the answer is 2x 1987x.

                  It does annoy me when people say "just use your volume pot", in some applications that totally not possible, if you need slick channel changes then the volume pot thing just isnt going to work.

                  You could try getting a clean from switching to the input of the FX loop ( i dont even know if the 1987x has one?!) use an A/B box and then run one side to the amps input, the other side to an EQ pedal then the input of the FX loop.
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                  • #10
                    If you want footswitchable clean the answer is 2x 1987x.

                    It does annoy me when people say "just use your volume pot", in some applications that totally not possible, if you need slick channel changes then the volume pot thing just isnt going to work.

                    You could try getting a clean from switching to the input of the FX loop ( i dont even know if the 1987x has one?!) use an A/B box and then run one side to the amps input, the other side to an EQ pedal then the input of the FX loop.


                    or you could just use a clean boost and your volume pot, which neil already recommended.

                    if you can't get the kinda gain drops out of the combo of those two that you're talking about... something may be wrong with the amp or the player.

                    seriously though-- i used either pedals for gain in a clean amp, or this strategy for.. forever.. and they're pretty similar. not separately eq'able-- but i didn't have that option before. guess it's all what you're used to.

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                    • #11
                      or you could just use a clean boost and your volume pot, which neil already recommended.

                      if you can't get the kinda gain drops out of the combo of those two that you're talking about... something may be wrong with the amp or the player.

                      seriously though-- i used either pedals for gain in a clean amp, or this strategy for.. forever.. and they're pretty similar. not separately eq'able-- but i didn't have that option before. guess it's all what you're used to.


                      People shouldnt have to be amazingly capable players or techs to get the best out of an piece of equipment.
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                      • #12
                        People shouldnt have to be amazingly capable players or techs to get the best out of an piece of equipment.


                        you don't have to be- all i'm saying is, it does the exact same thing as another gain stage to have a clean boost out front. if you're looking for high gain to dead nuts clean... naw, it won't work. but it will if you're using up to a certain threshold. but why would you be using a plexi for high gain applications anyhow?

                        what you're recommending involves a lot more wire and gear than a single boost in the line anyhow-- so that'd take more technical ability than some people have

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                        • #13
                          you don't have to be- all i'm saying is, it does the exact same thing as another gain stage to have a clean boost out front. if you're looking for high gain to dead nuts clean... naw, it won't work. but it will if you're using up to a certain threshold. but why would you be using a plexi for high gain applications anyhow?

                          what you're recommending involves a lot more wire and gear than a single boost in the line anyhow-- so that'd take more technical ability than some people have


                          Its a fairly simple thing to do, A/B switching isnt exactly rocket science.

                          I'm a single channel guy myself, i ride the volume pot and i find it works for me and the application i use it in but i can understand how it wouldnt work for a lot of styles.
                          I guess you could always get a faux clean channel by getting one of those passive volume pedals and just cut it back til you get the cleans you need although their might be a difference in the actually volumes which might prove to be a tad annoying.
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                          • #14
                            Volume and boost works unless you play metal. If that's the case don't use a plexi, or don't use cleans.
                            Or use a plexi and a Roland Jazz Chorus

                            The plexi is a single channel amp and meant to be used that way, running 2 heads is a can of worms and for the average gig to much.
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                            • #15
                              Volume and boost works unless you play metal, tech/skate punk,modern melodic rock, hardcore. If that's the case don't use a plexi, or don't use cleans.
                              Or use a plexi and a Roland Jazz Chorus

                              The plexi is a single channel amp and meant to be used that way, running 2 heads is a can of worms and for the average gig to much.


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