Members gt_jumper Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 My other guitarist is getting one, what can we expect? My usual setup is a Classic 50 or a Peavey ultra +. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dewysoss Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 [video=youtube;KZ7XLcagmmU] [video=youtube;HB3tmC2f3t0] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundgardener75 Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 Speaking of DSLs, is $600 for the 50 watt version a fair price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 Will do heavy stuff well, but just Needs a boost (Not tight enough with out) Get a Bad Monkey/Tube screamer type These amps are "very" bright, i reccomend to start Red Channel: OD 1 Gain 5-7 or OD 2 Gain 2-3 (OD 2 is unuseable with gain above 5 even boosted) Precense: 3Treble: 3Mids: 5-7Bass: 5 Leave "Mid cut" and "Deep" buttons off. Master hits sweet spot at around "4" Some like the Green channel boosted better (Same settings as above, just roll back Bass to around 2)EQ in the loop adds nice extra punch, and Greenbacks FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chaos2767 Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 $600 is a fair price if its in great condition! $600 seems to be the going rate for both 50 and 100, I ran a 10 band MXR KFK eq and it was melting faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted June 27, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 Will do heavy stuff well, but just Needs a boost (Not tight enough with out)Get a Bad Monkey/Tube screamer typeThese amps are "very" bright, i reccomend to startRed Channel: OD 1 Gain 5-7 or OD 2 Gain 2-3 (OD 2 is unuseable with gain above 5 even boosted)Precense: 3Treble: 3Mids: 5-7Bass: 5Leave "Mid cut" and "Deep" buttons off.Master hits sweet spot at around "4"Some like the Green channel boosted better (Same settings as above, just roll back Bass to around 2)EQ in the loop adds nice extra punch, and Greenbacks FTW Good to know man, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 Will do heavy stuff well, but just Needs a boost (Not tight enough with out)Get a Bad Monkey/Tube screamer typeThese amps are "very" bright, i reccomend to startRed Channel: OD 1 Gain 5-7 or OD 2 Gain 2-3 (OD 2 is unuseable with gain above 5 even boosted)Precense: 3Treble: 3Mids: 5-7Bass: 5Leave "Mid cut" and "Deep" buttons off.Master hits sweet spot at around "4"Some like the Green channel boosted better (Same settings as above, just roll back Bass to around 2)EQ in the loop adds nice extra punch, and Greenbacks FTW Lead 2 is NOT unusable. [video=youtube;2IsnPCE7dx4] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted June 27, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 FARKING SHREDDDDDD!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaturalBornBoy Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 FARKING SHREDDDDDD!!!!!!! Trust me dude. Lead 2 is not unusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 I owned the DSL for about 4-5 years????Hated it. Needs a boost for brootz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members greg apocalypse Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 Liked my DSL for the most part, but if you want "Brootz," there is absolutely NO REASON to NOT have a 5150. Similarly priced, maybe less. btw, are you using a c50 for brootz? That's weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AdrianPOA Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 I personally think you can do br00tz with a Marshall (JCM 800 or later) if you know what you're doing. That being said, the JVM would be the best choice since it can get pretty damn beastly sounding on it's own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DET1973 Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 Hatebreed uses the TSL. Scott Ian used to use these right before he switched to Randall. Scott Boosted his with a T.C. Electronic Distortion/Booster and his tech which later became the guitar player in Powerman 5000 used one and boosted it the exact same way with the same settings as Mr. Anthrax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 I have a DSL100. Never needed a boost to get a heavy tone. Just volume! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AdrianPOA Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 I have a DSL100. Never needed a boost to get a heavy tone. Just volume! I think a lot of the "Marshalls can't do metal" mudslinging comes from the fact that Marshalls don't forgive bad technique. Their inherent midrange that makes one's playing stand out is hard to mask even with the Mid knob scooped. Just ask Nile when they bust out a guitar solo! Nile rules btw. Just not their solos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 ^idk man...Tecnique or not...You put an unboosted Marshall next to a real metal amp like a 6505 or XXX and it's a no brainer. Idc how good/bad your tecnique is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 ^idk man...Tecnique or not...You put an unboosted Marshall next to a real metal amp like a 6505 or XXX and it's a no brainer. Idc how good/bad your tecnique is. I gotta disagree. I had a 5150 II and, IMO, the DSL has no trouble keeping up with it for the heavy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AdrianPOA Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 ^idk man...Tecnique or not...You put an unboosted Marshall next to a real metal amp like a 6505 or XXX and it's a no brainer. Idc how good/bad your tecnique is. As someone who returned to Marshalls after flirting with a XXX for a good 4 years, I could hear my slop a lot more after switching back. I am not one to claim to be a shred god. In fact, I am FAR from one, but playing an amp that isn't so over-saturated with gain lit a fire under my ass to practice more. For the record, 5150/6505 are good amps. XXX ain't bad either, but the active EQ was a nightmare for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 some of the most brutal live tones ive ever heard have been DSL's. as ive said many times before, i think the "marshalls cant do metal" thing i hear all the time around here is the dumbest thing ive ever heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AdrianPOA Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 some of the most brutal live tones ive ever heard have been DSL's. as ive said many times before, i think the "marshalls cant do metal" thing i hear all the time around here is the dumbest thing ive ever heard +1000 x infinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TU BE Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 Nile /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 I owned the DSL for about 4-5 years????Hated it. Needs a boost for brootz. Why did you keep it for so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 As someone who returned to Marshalls after flirting with a XXX for a good 4 years, I could hear my slop a lot more after switching back. I am not one to claim to be a shred god. In fact, I am FAR from one, but playing an amp that isn't so over-saturated with gain lit a fire under my ass to practice more.For the record, 5150/6505 are good amps. XXX ain't bad either, but the active EQ was a nightmare for me. And for the record here also...I don't think Marshalls are bad amps. It's just not my first choice for metal. I am also not talking about main stream metal as in bands like say Disturbed. The stuff I am into is more on the lines of August Burns Red...Which lets be honest here..An unboosted DSL does not have the gain (unboosted) or sustain to pull off tones like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 Why did you keep it for so long? A lot of issues really. I was having money issues at the time so I couldn't really buy anything else. Also I am really not much of the selling type of person.Also at the time my band started out as like Indie rock/metal type thing which I though the DSL sounded ok doing. My other guitarist was using a crappy Line 6 spider anyways so obviously the Marshall sounded better. Then we ended up kicking that dude out. Our next guitarist was playing a 6505+ which totally blew the Marshall away. I even had the Marshall retubed thinking that would solve the problem...But even after a retube/bias it still sounded like dog {censored} next to the Peavey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted June 27, 2012 Members Share Posted June 27, 2012 I loved my DSL it can do the brutals with ease. Awesome amps. I will ad on red channel 2 you do not need a boost. I runs mine the old "green channel with a boost" way and it was just like the sound was having sex with my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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