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  • Open or closed back cab?

    Im sure this has been discussed before... many times.

    I currently have an avatar 212 with v30s that is closed back. I used to have a carving that was half open with 75s.

    The avatar sounds decent at best in my small 'me room.' The carvin actually sounded better to my ears despite having the 75s.

    Im sure the small room contributes to my opinion. The closed back loaded with v30s is very focused and the size of the room doesnt allow for proper 'bloom' vs the open back which would 'bloom' inside a friggin' closet.

    Im thinking about opening the back of the avatar in attempt to let the sound develop earlier instead of having the focused v30 beam of death.

    Any thoughts on the subject? Will I lose a lot of lowend? The opened back carving had loads of it.
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  • #2
    We discussed this many times indeed and my answer is always the same: open the back and give it a shot. Don't like it? Close it again. That's the EASIEST thing to try for yourself.
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    • #3
      I probably will but not open it completely. A trip to the hardware store is in order.
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      • #4
        one of each, at the same damn time
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        • #5
          one of each, at the same damn time


          I used to run both at the same time. The sound was HUGE. But someone offered me money and I let the carvin go
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          • #6
            one of each, at the same damn time


            Correct response.
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            • #7
              It's good to have the option. I find I prefer closed.




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              • #8
                one of each, at the same damn time


                That's pretty much the answer to any problem.
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                • #9
                  v30s are already a middy kinda one dimensional sounding speaker to me, i would think opening the back would make that even worse?

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                  • #10
                    I like closed for most everything, clean tones are a little better open I think.

                    At one time you could order an open back-piece from avatar, pretty cheap.
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                    • #11
                      v30s are already a middy kinda one dimensional sounding speaker to me, i would think opening the back would make that even worse?


                      Personally I prefer v30's in a close back cab.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the replies.

                        OPening the back may make it worse. I dont know. Im going to make a 'half back' for it just for the hell of it. I have some scrap plywood that'll work just fine.

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                        • #13
                          Always closed for me personally. Not a fan of open back at all
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                          • #14
                            I prefer closed so that you can channel the sound where you want it.
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                            • #15
                              Your amp may not sound good with V30's. V30's always sound better in a closed cab.

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