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  • Beginner needs 2-channel amp, good low volume tone, lightweight, footswitch

    I'm a beginner electric player looking for a 2-channel amp. I play at church so it's mostly rock tones, like Chris Tomlin and Hillsongs songs.



    Doesn't matter if it is tube or solid state, but I need the following:



    1. Best tone for low volume. I'm always getting complaints that the electric guitar is too loud (room of about 80 people). Is there an amp that has full sounding tone at low volume?



    2. 2-channels and foot switchable (one for crunch parts and one for lead parts).



    3. Speaker needs to have decent dispersion, so that those directly in front don't hear it super loud and those on the sides barely hear it. I will mic the amp to the FOH to help with this.



    4. Sounds good with my Agile AL-3500 (Les Paul style). I will be plugging in directly to the amp and won't be using pedals.



    5. Lightweight, since I will be carrying it every week.



    6. Money is not an object, but prefer $1000 or less.



    Am I beyond help?

  • #2
    If you want dispersion from speakers than it would be good to go with 10" speakers as they tend to spray more and be less beaming than 12" imo.

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    • #3
      Peavey Classic 30
      Guitars: USA Peavey Wolfgang, MIJ Ibanez SCA220, Squier Telecaster Custom, Taylor 110e
      Amps: 1989 Peavey VTM60, 1969 Sunn Sceptre
      Cabs Avatar Vintage 4x12 w/ WGS Green Berets, Basson Vertical Slant 2x12 w/ Eminence Legends
      Pedals Korg Pitchblack, BBE Green Screamer, BAT Pharaoh Fuzz, MXR Carbon Copy, Line 6 Echo Park

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      • #4






        Quote Originally Posted by chrispsullivan
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        Peavey Classic 30




        40 lbs is heavy, but I'm willing to lug it if there aren't better options that are lighter. Will a 30w tube amp sound good at lowish volume?

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        • #5
          What are you using now/
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          Originally Posted by BrendanO


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          • #6
            If you're going to low volume, your best bet is probably going to be a solid state amp. Most tube amps...most, not all...sound their best when the power amp really gets cooking, which, in turn, means higher volume. Some of the best tones I've ever gotten at low volume was through an old Marshall Valvestate. It has one 12AX7 in the preamp. But it really does sound great at lower volumes. If you can find one of those, I'd go for that.
            Originally Posted by jnurp


            murdoch always brings teh lulz.









            Originally Posted by RockStarBassist


            Also MurdochV wins thread.









            Originally Posted by sleewell


            Murdoch'd = when you think you have something funny to say only to hit post and that son of a bitch said it 10x funnier.

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            • #7
              If you're going to low volume, your best bet is probably going to be a solid state amp. Most tube amps...most, not all...sound their best when the power amp really gets cooking, which, in turn, means higher volume. Some of the best tones I've ever gotten at low volume was through an old Marshall Valvestate. It has one 12AX7 in the preamp. But it really does sound great at lower volumes. If you can find one of those, I'd go for that.
              Originally Posted by jnurp


              murdoch always brings teh lulz.









              Originally Posted by RockStarBassist


              Also MurdochV wins thread.









              Originally Posted by sleewell


              Murdoch'd = when you think you have something funny to say only to hit post and that son of a bitch said it 10x funnier.

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              • #8
                Dude, a Peavey Classic 30 is perfect for your situation.
                I do not accept any liability for anything said in the above post.


                For your reference, what I'm mostly using right now:
                Laney VH100R
                Titan "Cerberus" (sorta)
                Mesa 4x12, homegrown 6x12 (v30/g12h30)

                My Band: Jesust

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                • #9
                  for low volume, i'd seriously consider solid state amps. You'd have way better control of gain and overall volume at lower levels-- even moreso than with a 5 watt guitar amp-- which'd still probably be too loud for church, unless you've got yourself one loud church.



                  edit: murdoch: jinx.

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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by Grayson73
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                    40 lbs is heavy, but I'm willing to lug it if there aren't better options that are lighter. Will a 30w tube amp sound good at lowish volume?




                    Guitar is not for wimps. The reason I recommended the Classic 30 is that you can get that at really reasonable used prices used, they sound great, and have the two channels you want. It's probably not as quiet as you would want.
                    Guitars: USA Peavey Wolfgang, MIJ Ibanez SCA220, Squier Telecaster Custom, Taylor 110e
                    Amps: 1989 Peavey VTM60, 1969 Sunn Sceptre
                    Cabs Avatar Vintage 4x12 w/ WGS Green Berets, Basson Vertical Slant 2x12 w/ Eminence Legends
                    Pedals Korg Pitchblack, BBE Green Screamer, BAT Pharaoh Fuzz, MXR Carbon Copy, Line 6 Echo Park

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                    • #11
                      How about the Blackstar HT-5? http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HT5R/
                      Guitars: USA Peavey Wolfgang, MIJ Ibanez SCA220, Squier Telecaster Custom, Taylor 110e
                      Amps: 1989 Peavey VTM60, 1969 Sunn Sceptre
                      Cabs Avatar Vintage 4x12 w/ WGS Green Berets, Basson Vertical Slant 2x12 w/ Eminence Legends
                      Pedals Korg Pitchblack, BBE Green Screamer, BAT Pharaoh Fuzz, MXR Carbon Copy, Line 6 Echo Park

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                      • #12
                        Or the new 15 watt Marshall DSL combo. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DSL15C/
                        Guitars: USA Peavey Wolfgang, MIJ Ibanez SCA220, Squier Telecaster Custom, Taylor 110e
                        Amps: 1989 Peavey VTM60, 1969 Sunn Sceptre
                        Cabs Avatar Vintage 4x12 w/ WGS Green Berets, Basson Vertical Slant 2x12 w/ Eminence Legends
                        Pedals Korg Pitchblack, BBE Green Screamer, BAT Pharaoh Fuzz, MXR Carbon Copy, Line 6 Echo Park

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                        • #13






                          Quote Originally Posted by newholland
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                          for low volume, i'd seriously consider solid state amps. You'd have way better control of gain and overall volume at lower levels-- even moreso than with a 5 watt guitar amp-- which'd still probably be too loud for church, unless you've got yourself one loud church.



                          edit: murdoch: jinx.




                          I agree with this. Solid-state or a modeling amp would probably be best. Maybe buy a lower cost solid-state or modeling amp now and have money left over for a good tube amp later.



                          -Roland Cube 60 or 80

                          -Maybe a Line 6 DT25, tube amp but modeling, I don't know how much it weighs.

                          -Tech 21 stuff

                          -Fender Mustang amp. They are getting great reviews.

                          -Vox Valvetronix stuff.

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                          • #14
                            Peavey Transtube combo of some type. I have an Agile 3100 that I play through a Studio Pro 112 red stripe and it sounds pretty thick and full no matter the volume. The pots also have a good taper so you don't go from whisper to scream really quickly and can actually dial in a good volume for a given situation. I love that amp. It gets used for everything from my electric violin to bass duties in some low-volume situations without complaint. The Bandits are plentiful and cheap, and the Studio Pros can often be picked up for nothing because pawn shops don't know what the heck they are. I got mine for $80 and it's still one of my favorite amps ever. Not my absolute favorite, but damn close.
                            Originally Posted by Murdoch


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                            Originally Posted by Dr.Picklebottom


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                            • #15
                              i don't get it.



                              yes, there's a sweet spot where tube amps sound best (and it's usually pretty loud) but that doesn't mean that they sound worse than solid state amps at low volumes.



                              with a classic 30, at least you have to ability to crank it into that sweet spot if you get the opportunity. with a SS amp, you don't.



                              i support the classic 30 suggestion, although you may want to reconsider your position on pedals...especially if you want a distorted tone that can't be had with the C30 alone.



                              as far as the dispersion thing, turn the amp so the speaker points 90* from the crowd and let the PA do the work for the audience. basically, do a sidefill setup.
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