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  • #31
    What about sinking serious money into that Kemper deal and running it through my KRK V4 monitors? I feel like PODs and all that blow (although I picked up their M5, and dig it for the price.) I mean should I look into a Kemper or a Recording Recto or something? I would prefer tube, but if not I'd like the best most REALISTIC option next to cranking up my Tremoverb.
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    • #32






      Quote Originally Posted by c_corie
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      What about sinking serious money into that Kemper deal and running it through my KRK V4 monitors? I feel like PODs and all that blow (although I picked up their M5, and dig it for the price.) I mean should I look into a Kemper or a Recording Recto or something? I would prefer tube, but if not I'd like the best most REALISTIC option next to cranking up my Tremoverb.




      IMO using something with some really good headphones will give you the most punch and cranked feel without disturbing neighbors. Anything running through a speaker cab IMO is going to have to be loud to get anywhere close to feeling like a cranked T-verb or any other amp. It's just a thing where through a speaker cab it's all about pushing the speakers to get that tone and that requires volume.
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      • #33






        Quote Originally Posted by jlb32
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        IMO using something with some really good headphones will give you the most punch and cranked feel without disturbing neighbors. Anything running through a speaker cab IMO is going to have to be loud to get anywhere close to feeling like a cranked T-verb or any other amp. It's just a thing where through a speaker cab it's all about pushing the speakers to get that tone and that requires volume.




        So even with a simulator or something through monitors I'll have to have it cranked to have punch?
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        • #34






          Quote Originally Posted by c_corie
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          So even with a simulator or something through monitors I'll have to have it cranked to have punch?




          Monitors or computer speakers with a bass module IMO will give you more punch at decent volumes over a speaker cab but they can get pretty loud also. I guess it just depends on how loud you consider to loud for your apartment and how much punch you are wanting.
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          • #35






            Quote Originally Posted by c_corie
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            What about sinking serious money into that Kemper deal and running it through my KRK V4 monitors?




            This is exactly what I do. Sounds awesome. But don't just take my word for it:






            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MvzmHzIC_g





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            • #36






              Quote Originally Posted by IbanezJon
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              Echoing others..



              Any option works it just depends on your ears and preferences.



              Personally.. I hate headphones. I like to hear the sound move through the air.. even if it's low volume. Even at 3am.. I can play and enjoy myself with a 60 Watt 2x12 tube amp.. without having volume complaints from people sleeping 2 doors away.



              Secondly.. I don't understand the desire for "high gain low volume tube amp".. I think that's stupid.



              ..............

              A 100W Tube amp can work..



              What about speakers?



              Modellers are great but can sound tinny.. or fizzy.. knowing how to tweak them helps.. but again.. I hate headphones..



              You can't really go wrong.. and since it's low volume.. it's all about what's fun to play for you.. there's no right or wrong. I like to have lots of EQ flexibilty for my higher gain sounds.. for example.. I hate to be boxed in by 1 or 3 band EQ's.. unless the amps voicing is really close to what I already want. For a simple blues sound it's more of a pure woody guitar sound.. but for high gain.. playing with EQ's and chasing different albums tones is fun.



              There's no one right answer.. you just need to try them all for yourself.




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              • #37






                Quote Originally Posted by SteinbergerHack
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                Bogner XTC - put it in 1/2 power, triode, class A mode. That's about 7W with nearly any gain level you want.




                was unaware you could do that with that amp...in which case, I second this suggestion.



                I believe the mark v can go down to 10 watts with the switches on it.
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                • #38






                  Quote Originally Posted by thenakedarab
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                  I've got a Fender Champion 600 I use for most of my low volume playing, and it takes my various dirt boxes and my Digitech RP200 like a champ.



                  The internal speaker is not that hot, but it sounds pretty tits plugged into my Earcandy 1x12.




                  +1.



                  I record with a modded Champ and a Line 6 cab with Digitech 150, and it sounds amazing.
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                  • #39
                    Just buy what you really want to buy, and if you regret it down the road then at least you were happy with your purchase at first. Whatever.. first world problems..
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                    • #40
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                      • #41
                        ampeg v4 of course.
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                        • #42






                          Quote Originally Posted by Kardula
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                          was unaware you could do that with that amp...in which case, I second this suggestion.



                          I believe the mark v can go down to 10 watts with the switches on it.




                          The 101b with all the options can do it. I like the flexibility; in reality, though, it has less to do with volume than about getting some compression/overdrive out of the power section.
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                          • #43
                            I would also add that a little common sense and courtesy go a long way. As an apartment dweller, I limit my amp playing to afternoons and early evenings. The later it gets, the more I turn down but realistically even a 1 watt amp is goinng to be loud and annoying. I never play my amp past 8pm. For night playing or for long recording sessions, I use a POD with headphones.



                            No neighbor wants to hear a ****************ing guitar, but I have no problem playing my amp on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon as long as the volume is within reason.



                            There is also the option of getting a rehearsal space.

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                            • #44
                              Money's no object? Best low wattage/volume setup for any type of music would be a Kemper or a Fractal unit into Studio Monitors. Much better than a tube amp for that scenario.

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                              • #45






                                Quote Originally Posted by Sillypeoples
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                                You nailed so many great points. Everyone listen up, this guy knows what he's talking about.




                                lol thanks.. one person thinks so at least.

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