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    Hi folks,

    New to the Guitar forum. I am a sound guy and bass player but we are looking for a guitar amp to help with our backline. We are on a budget and when the time is right, will need at least one guitar amp to continue with our backline. What would you suggest besides the weaponry of a Marshall? We don't want anything too loud, large or obnoxious in tone and something that is easy to mic. We are considering Vox, Mesa or Fender? Which models? Would anyone not consider playing through one of these mentioned? Personally, Marshalls assault my ears. Thanks. As a sound guy, I like things under control volumewise, so everything can go through monitors which really helps the FOH mix. I know most guitar players like their amps on 15, which doesn't come across to the audience so well The result? Guitars are left out of the FOH mix, which makes it sound unblended and unbalanced. Just thought I'd add that in. Thanks for your understanding,folks.

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    Peavey Bandit 1x12" combo

    Cheap, sounds good, reliable. No valves so doesn't have to be cranked up to sound its best. Also less for boneheads to break.
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    • #3
      50w EVH 5150III.
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      • #4
        Backline is for what type of event and style of Music?



        For a large variety of tones, most Mesa amps will do good Dirty, clean etc to cover a broad base.



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        On another note, as a sound guy, i would direct them to turn down the amp if they have it set to loud and offer to put more of them in thier monitor mix to better hear themselves on stage.

        Going for super low wattage amps to combat this is not the answer.
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        • #5
          Mesa amps are a bit complicated to dial in.

          If you were to go for one, since you're on a budget the F-50 combo is pretty easy to set up (doesn't have loads of little switches for options)



          I still stand by the Peavey Bandit though.
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          • #6
            Kemper. This way you'll have a near infinite array of tones, don't have to mic anything, and the stage volume goes down since you're only putting out guitars through the monitors. And if you're afraid of it breaking, keep it in the mixing booth.



            And if you're looking for something that's cheap, robust and doesn't take a lot of room, look into the EHX Magnum44 + AMT Legend preamp combination.
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            • #7
              Tubemeister ?

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              • #8
                What situation is it actually for? Personally I'd always rather use my own amp for any gig - when I turn up at a venue and the sound guy is telling me I should use the house amp he's put on stage I don't like it very much, because the amp is part of my instrument - it'd be like a guitarist turning up and telling you what mixing desk he wants you to use.



                No matter what amp you pick, some guitarists won't care what it is, some will care but be able to work with it, and some will find it totally unsuitable for what they want and have to play the entire gig through gritted teeth. Since most of the guitarists who do care will bring their own amp anyway, you only really need to worry about the ones who don't care what they play through. So I guess logically it doesn't really matter what it is - get something with a clean and distorted channel that's not too complicated.
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                • #9
                  If it was me I'd go with Fender since it can give a decent clean, as well as loud if needed, tone that people can use pedals on to get their tones from. the Hotrod series has lots of models to choose from depending on your budget and feature requirements etc.
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                    Quote Originally Posted by yourguitarhero
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                    Mesa amps are a bit complicated to dial in.

                    If you were to go for one, since you're on a budget the F-50 combo is pretty easy to set up (doesn't have loads of little switches for options)



                    I still stand by the Peavey Bandit though.




                    Correct in both options. F-50 is great, for a various of styles but with its own, steady voice. The bandit is gain versatile, it can sound like a 5150 a bit, or like the ultra series (modern) or like a more classic amp and it is insanely loud!
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                    • #11
                      a guitar amp that can used for backline, hmmm....... no, just can't think of any
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                      • #12






                        Quote Originally Posted by DBR
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                        Hi folks,

                        New to the Guitar forum. I am a sound guy and bass player but we are looking for a guitar amp to help with our backline. We are on a budget and when the time is right, will need at least one guitar amp to continue with our backline. What would you suggest besides the weaponry of a Marshall? We don't want anything too loud, large or obnoxious in tone and something that is easy to mic. We are considering Vox, Mesa or Fender? Which models? Would anyone not consider playing through one of these mentioned? Personally, Marshalls assault my ears. Thanks. As a sound guy, I like things under control volumewise, so everything can go through monitors which really helps the FOH mix. I know most guitar players like their amps on 15, which doesn't come across to the audience so well The result? Guitars are left out of the FOH mix, which makes it sound unblended and unbalanced. Just thought I'd add that in. Thanks for your understanding,folks.




                        50 watt EVH 5150 III w/212 cab



                        Put it on a stand or a head case and point it at the drummer (side fill style) and let the guitar players turn it up to where it sounds good. This way you get to mic it and run it in the FOH mix and get an awesome sound out of it at the same time.
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                        • #13
                          I would look at the Peavey 6505, Jet City 50 water, the EVH as mentioned. None of these would break your bank and should be pretty reliable.
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                          • #14
                            I'd say the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe. It can do anything. Distortion guys can bring their distortion pedals, clean guys can use the cleans on the amp which are bar standard good. It has an effects loop for guys using effects in the effects loop. It has good reverb. It's just an overall amp that anyone can do anything they want with it. They can be bought used for pretty cheap.

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                            • #15
                              I would get a 1960 cab and a cheap head, like a JCA22 or 20. That way you have a good sounding rig and also have the option of allowing players to bring their own head and use the cab with it.



                              I don't use distortion pedals on my rig, all my distortion comes from my amp, so if I have to play with a backline, it would have to be something that has a good distortion channel or better yet, a good cab so I can plug my rig into it. So Voxes and Fenders combos should be out of question.



                              As a bass player and soundguy, I don't expect you to understand a lot about guitar rigs, but the fact is many players will rely on their amp for their main tone, so having an industry standard cab and allowing them to plug in their rigs is definitely the way to go. And a cheap, good sounding head for those who are cool with using the house amp with pedals.
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