Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 how will they regulate it and how do you think the alcohol and tobacco industries will respond? Specifically coors based in CO. Also will the rockies now be called the smokey mountains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charveldan Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 All is forgiven, you can get high with cops and everything........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 seriously though will people in jail for selling weed be released? Will they be fined? legal age of purchase? Driving restrictions? More accurate tests for measuring it in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diddlybo Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Its a strange situation because its still a federal offense. The Obammy admin cracked down hard on legal weed in his first term, I would assume they will continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheRymanChu Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 I think Colorado will limit sales to dispensaries for the time being. I think the wording of the amendment left it up to the Governor how he wants to set up sales. That means that the Governor has the power to make it available everywhere tobacco products are. If the population of Colorado doesn't screw it up, this could happen one day. I haven't read about the WA state amendment yet. I don't think Coors will go into the pot business until they think it will make them an extra $500 million/year. It wouldn't surprise me to see Philip Morris or Lorillard get into business in Colorado rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by diddlybo Its a strange situation because its still a federal offense. The Obammy admin cracked down hard on legal weed in his first term, I would assume they will continue to do so. This is true, but there are still a ton of delivery service dispensaries. The state and local law enforcement agencies aren't prosecuting anymore, and the Feds really don't have the money to go after people who are simply growing/using for themselves. The Feds will go after people who try to grow and sell the stuff in large quantities, and that's it. Your typical smoker will now have little to nothing to worry about now that their local police won't be coming after them. It's not perfect, but it's a huge step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheRymanChu Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by guidedbyechoes seriously though will people in jail for selling weed be released? Will they be fined? legal age of purchase? Driving restrictions? More accurate tests for measuring it in the system. They will have driving penalties, much like alcohol. They will have to develop more accurate tests. Those in prison will not be released, because the system doesn't work that way. You are convicted for committing what was a crime at the time, doesn't matter if it has since been decriminalized. In Colorado they set the legal age of purchase at 21 and the legal amount at 1 oz. You can also carry 1 oz and give 1 oz as a present to anyone of legal age. I'm definitely going to fly to some concerts at Red Rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by TheRymanChu I think Colorado will limit sales to dispensaries for the time being. I think the wording of the amendment left it up to the Governor how he wants to set up sales. That means that the Governor has the power to make it available everywhere tobacco products are. If the population of Colorado doesn't screw it up, this could happen one day. I haven't read about the WA state amendment yet. I don't think Coors will go into the pot business until they think it will make them an extra $500 million/year. It wouldn't surprise me to see Philip Morris or Lorillard get into business in Colorado rather quickly. No I meant as it is a "new" product to compete with alcohol. Also who will be able to sell and will they be required to use an easy identifier for non tobacco cigarettes? I find this all quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by TheRymanChu They will have driving penalties, much like alcohol. They will have to develop more accurate tests. Those in prison will not be released, because the system doesn't work that way. You are convicted for committing what was a crime at the time, doesn't matter if it has since been decriminalized. In Colorado they set the legal age of purchase at 21 and the legal amount at 1 oz. You can also carry 1 oz and give 1 oz as a present to anyone of legal age. I'm definitely going to fly to some concerts at Red Rocks. I see but there is a chance that the prison system will give them a chance for parole a lot sooner to reduce the amount of inmates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheRymanChu Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by guidedbyechoes I see but there is a chance that the prison system will give them a chance for parole a lot sooner to reduce the amount of inmates. They will allow people to expunge or conceal marijuana convictions. The Governor could pardon people if he so chooses. But most people don't do time for small amounts, unless they live in Oklahoma. Felony possession in Colorado is more than 12 ounces with incarceration of 1 - 1.5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnowStorm Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 It was funny because I was watching ESPN and they were wondering how this would affect sports and I guess drug policies sports have. Kind of interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reverend179 Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Dude I've been high since the 6th. You all type funny words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by SnowStorm It was funny because I was watching ESPN and they were wondering how this would affect sports and I guess drug policies sports have. Kind of interesting. it won't. policies won't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by SnowStorm It was funny because I was watching ESPN and they were wondering how this would affect sports and I guess drug policies sports have. Kind of interesting. How in the world would this affect them? Both states were clear that companies can enforce drug policies exactly as they did before this passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheRymanChu Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 What will be interesting is when someone is fired for testing positive and sues that they were sober on the job and were terminated for legal recreational use. Who knows how that will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby How in the world would this affect them? Both states were clear that companies can enforce drug policies exactly as they did before this passed. That was another thing I wondered about drug testing for jobs. It is almost entirely a insurance matter, but who knows how they will handle that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by TheRymanChu What will be interesting is when someone is fired for testing positive and sues that they were sober on the job and were terminated for legal recreational use. Who knows how that will go. That's another good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KCTigerChief Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by TheRymanChu I think Colorado will limit sales to dispensaries for the time being. I think the wording of the amendment left it up to the Governor how he wants to set up sales. That means that the Governor has the power to make it available everywhere tobacco products are. If the population of Colorado doesn't screw it up, this could happen one day. I haven't read about the WA state amendment yet. I don't think Coors will go into the pot business until they think it will make them an extra $500 million/year. It wouldn't surprise me to see Philip Morris or Lorillard get into business in Colorado rather quickly. Originally Posted by TheRymanChu They will have driving penalties, much like alcohol. They will have to develop more accurate tests. Those in prison will not be released, because the system doesn't work that way. You are convicted for committing what was a crime at the time, doesn't matter if it has since been decriminalized. In Colorado they set the legal age of purchase at 21 and the legal amount at 1 oz. You can also carry 1 oz and give 1 oz as a present to anyone of legal age. I'm definitely going to fly to some concerts at Red Rocks. Originally Posted by TheRymanChu They will allow people to expunge or conceal marijuana convictions. The Governor could pardon people if he so chooses. But most people don't do time for small amounts, unless they live in Oklahoma. Felony possession in Colorado is more than 12 ounces with incarceration of 1 - 1.5 years. Originally Posted by TheRymanChu What will be interesting is when someone is fired for testing positive and sues that they were sober on the job and were terminated for legal recreational use. Who knows how that will go. Gee, you haven't followed this at all have you?Ya, he a pothead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by guidedbyechoes That was another thing I wondered about drug testing for jobs. It is almost entirely a insurance matter, but who knows how they will handle that. you can lie to your insurance company about smoking tobacco because they don't test for it, but they can catch thc.so they could raise your risk rating and make you pay more i'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by NeloAngelo you can lie to your insurance company about smoking tobacco because they don't test for it, but they can catch thc.so they could raise your risk rating and make you pay more i'm sure. no the company you work for's insurance. If it's under a certain number of people in the company they don't test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 no the company you work for's insurance. If it's under a certain number of people in the company they don't test. ooooh i did not know that. /peter griffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 no the company you work for's insurance. If it's under a certain number of people in the company they don't test. If a company wants to prohibit marijuana use by employees they are allowed to do so regardless of the number of employees. Both states are allowing recreational use but are not forcing companies to change their policies. A lot of big companies don't test in the first place because it simply costs too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 If a company wants to prohibit marijuana use by employees they are allowed to do so regardless of the number of employees. Both states are allowing recreational use but are not forcing companies to change their policies. A lot of big companies don't test in the first place because it simply costs too much. Yes if they want to it's to their discretion for random testing. But insurance forces drug testing upon getting hired at my company, it was a newer thing because our company reached a certain size. I work for a senior housing community ran by a financial corporation. Perhaps it's because we have a greater chance of injury than people who only do office work or it may be a state thing. But that is what I was told unless I was lied to. We are also obligated to have trash recepticals inside of parking garages so people don't have to go outside and risk slipping in winter months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnowStorm Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 How in the world would this affect them? Both states were clear that companies can enforce drug policies exactly as they did before this passed. They brought it up on ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yes if they want to it's to their discretion for random testing. But insurance forces drug testing upon getting hired at my company, it was a newer thing because our company reached a certain size. I work for a senior housing community ran by a financial corporation. Perhaps it's because we have a greater chance of injury than people who only do office work or it may be a state thing. But that is what I was told unless I was lied to. We are also obligated to have trash recepticals inside of parking garages so people don't have to go outside and risk slipping in winter months. Must be the type of work and an insurance company policy. Maybe your company saved some by allowing these policies? Or maybe it's a Washington state thing? Most large companies don't test because it's not worth the cost. Or who knows? That's what I was told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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