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  • mesa mkiv vs mkv my thoughts

    i have read many different opinions on both amps and this is what I have come up with so far.



    ok so I played both amps I got the mkv to sound similar to the IV but I can't get the feel of the mkiv with the V. the IV has more sag than the V. I also got closer to the tone I have dialed in using extreme mode on the mkv. the over all tone is darker on the IV. so in a nut shell the IV is easier to play and more fun because it is way more forgiving. the V is definitely way more articulate and over all a tighter amp thus far.time will tell.



    I used my charvel model6 and here are the variables

    MKIV(6l6gc)>Vader 412

    MKV(e34l)> pair of Vader 212's
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    Interesting, I would of course really love to hear a V vs IV vs III being such a mark fan.
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    • #3
      I prefer Rectifiers.









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      • #4
        I'm gonna do a clip at some point but I need more time with both amps
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        • #5
          Hmm, I wonder if the different power tubes are making for the differences between the amps.



          How is the Mk V with 6L6s?
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          • #6






            Quote Originally Posted by seajay
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            Hmm, I wonder if the different power tubes are making for the differences between the amps.



            How is the Mk V with 6L6s?




            just has a bit less growl.
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            • #7
              I like sag in an amp. Not so much in boobs.



              Cool report, sir. I have yet to road-test a V. Funny thing is, compared to my other amps my IV feels kind of stiff at times. So if a V is even tighter and stiffer then I am not sure I would like it.
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              • #8
                but that can be the 6l6gc w/4x12 vs el34 w/2x12 imo

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                • #9






                  Quote Originally Posted by magh8
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                  i have read many different opinions on both amps and this is what I have come up with so far.



                  ok so I played both amps I got the mkv to sound similar to the IV but I can't get the feel of the mkiv with the V. the IV has more sag than the V. I also got closer to the tone I have dialed in using extreme mode on the mkv. the over all tone is darker on the IV. so in a nut shell the IV is easier to play and more fun because it is way more forgiving. the V is definitely way more articulate and over all a tighter amp thus far.time will tell.



                  I used my charvel model6 and here are the variables

                  MKIV(6l6gc)>Vader 412

                  MKV(e34l)> pair of Vader 212's




                  The speakers would play a role

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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by seajay
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                    Hmm, I wonder if the different power tubes are making for the differences between the amps.



                    How is the Mk V with 6L6s?




                    One would think, the 6L6 is more articulate

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                    • #11
                      the mark power section works with two sets of tubes in parallel, the EL34 often being in triode, pseudo-class A. Though there were 6L6 only versions of marks forever I'd say that if you crank to a reasonable level you may be hearing more of the EL34s, going into power tube colouring easier and more quickly than the 6L6 pair. I also remember a thread on the amp garage forum that this design more or less eliminates crossover distortion which is interesting and very un-marshally.
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                      • #12






                        Quote Originally Posted by Stonedtone
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                        The speakers would play a role




                        same speaker diff enclosures
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                        • #13
                          the V is one better.
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                          • #14
                            the V is one better.
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                            • #15






                              Quote Originally Posted by magh8
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                              the IV has more sag than the V.




                              You installed a tube rectifier on your mark iv???



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