Members nightflameauto Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 'Cause I'm kinky like that. Let's assume your budget is around the hundred dollar mark for one mic, and around two hundred to two-fifty or so for the second. Don't ask why, it's my game. Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unstrung Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 SM 57, used MD421. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spärk Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 So many choices, so many different tones. Depends on what you are looking for. 57 isnt a bad place to start though. So many iconic sounds have been recorded with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ENdtime Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah the md 421 is kinda the go to Mic to mix with the more gritty sm57. But I feel I have a good grasp on recording, especially guitars.. And rarely, have I ever found the 2 Mic approach better than a single Mic.. Obviously the phase issues of 2 mics comes into play, and it can absolutely destroy a recording.. Although there is some simple things to listen for when setting them up that can get them in phase fairly quick.. When I use 2 mics now, I take the approach of single tracking each Mic, and quad tracking the whole song. So each side has 2 tracks (1 Mic each). This takes any phase issues out of the equation.. Cause even when I get the mics really close to in phase when I use them together, there is always a touch of the comb filtering that I hear.. And I'll throw out 2 non standard options that I use often. EV cardinal condenser.. Can't handle real loud sources, but I've gotten some great sounding recording using just that Mic.. Rather cheap as well.. $99. At least it was when I bought mine.. I also have a modded Oktava mk 319. The new modded mics are pretty expensive nowadays, but if you can find a used one, it's a great all around Mic.. The 219 is suitable as well. Having an impedance switch on your preamp is key to dialng in that Mic, but I've gotten some of my favorite with that Mic as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ENdtime Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah the md 421 is kinda the go to Mic to mix with the more gritty sm57. But I feel I have a good grasp on recording, especially guitars.. And rarely, have I ever found the 2 Mic approach better than a single Mic.. Obviously the phase issues of 2 mics comes into play, and it can absolutely destroy a recording.. Although there is some simple things to listen for when setting them up that can get them in phase fairly quick.. When I use 2 mics now, I take the approach of single tracking each Mic, and quad tracking the whole song. So each side has 2 tracks (1 Mic each). This takes any phase issues out of the equation.. Cause even when I get the mics really close to in phase when I use them together, there is always a touch of the comb filtering that I hear.. And I'll throw out 2 non standard options that I use often. EV cardinal condenser.. Can't handle real loud sources, but I've gotten some great sounding recording using just that Mic.. Rather cheap as well.. $99. At least it was when I bought mine.. I also have a modded Oktava mk 319. The new modded mics are pretty expensive nowadays, but if you can find a used one, it's a great all around Mic.. The 219 is suitable as well. Having an impedance switch on your preamp is key to dialng in that Mic, but I've gotten some of my favorite with that Mic as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 57 sounds great and easy to use. extra bonus points for using another mic, condenser or whatnot, somewhere in the room and then blending the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 a cascade fathead and an MXL v67.. with proper placement and eq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 An SM-7b and an Sm-57, but don't plug the '57 in - it's just there to make them think you're clever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NinjaRaf Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 I like the 57 cuz you can get great sounds at low volumes...I cant do the condenser thing at the volumes I record at. Ive heard awesome results of the 57 and 421, but man....Im cool with just the 57. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JonVengeance Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 It's not within your hypothetical budget, but we just recorded with an sm57 and a Royer 121 and it sounded amazing. I have an sm57 and md421 though and that combo is definitely good and within the budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nightflameauto Posted December 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 OK, now that the forum SEEMS to be functional for a moment:Reason I'm asking is I'm currently recording with an e609 + a crappy old condensor and blending them with some phase inversion trickery which sucks some of the harshness out of the 609's basic tonal character. However, the condensor I'm using is horrible about picking up {censored} it shouldn't. I have a cricket supply for the geckos in the back corner of the room about twelve feet away from the amp and sometimes I'll hear chirps from them mid riffin' even when I'm cranked up. It's ridiculous. I love the blended tone, HATE the off-axis noise.I keep thinking I should pick up a 421 and a 57. I may end up doing that in the next couple months. I'm starting to get serious about recording again.If only I could get serious about writing good songs again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nakedzen Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 The md421 is great for getting some scooped aggression to the mix. For a more even tone I highly recommend the Beyerdynamic M201, a really nice mic for pretty much anything. Here's a short snippet, first the SM57 then the M201:https://soundcloud.com/nakedzen/sm57...rduynamic-m201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nightflameauto Posted December 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 Originally Posted by nakedzen The md421 is great for getting some scooped aggression to the mix. For a more even tone I highly recommend the Beyerdynamic M201, a really nice mic for pretty much anything. Here's a short snippet, first the SM57 then the M201:https://soundcloud.com/nakedzen/sm57...rduynamic-m201 Nice comparison. I may look into one of those too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Krank'N Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 However' date=' the condensor I'm using is horrible about picking up {censored} it shouldn't. I have a cricket supply for the geckos in the back corner of the room about twelve feet away from the amp and sometimes I'll hear chirps from them mid riffin' even when I'm cranked up. It's ridiculous. I love the blended tone, HATE the off-axis noise.QUOTE'] Heres a trick to reduce flutter echo and extraneous noise with a condensor . Build a mic tent. Get a sleeping bag or a couple thick blankets . Set up the dynamic mic within a fist length of the cone. Then the condensor a foot or so back. Then drap the blankets over the top of the cab and around the mics. Also the louder the amp is cranked the harder it is to get a reasonable sound. good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nightflameauto Posted December 20, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 Originally Posted by Krank'N Heres a trick to reduce flutter echo and extraneous noise with a condensor . Build a mic tent. Get a sleeping bag or a couple thick blankets . Set up the dynamic mic within a fist length of the cone. Then the condensor a foot or so back. Then drap the blankets over the top of the cab and around the mics. Also the louder the amp is cranked the harder it is to get a reasonable sound. good luck! You know, I actually rearranged my recording room a couple weekends ago and am in the process of putting together a foam "wall" around the cab I use so it may do the same basic thing. Part of that's to block out the external noise, part of it's to block the amp from me while I'm recording so I can hear the drum tracks in the headphones a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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