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  • Best Microphone pairs for recording guitar tones.

    'Cause I'm kinky like that.



    Let's assume your budget is around the hundred dollar mark for one mic, and around two hundred to two-fifty or so for the second. Don't ask why, it's my game.



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    Originally Posted by Murdoch


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    SM 57, used MD421.
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    • #3
      So many choices, so many different tones. Depends on what you are looking for. 57 isnt a bad place to start though. So many iconic sounds have been recorded with it.

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      • #4
        Yeah the md 421 is kinda the go to Mic to mix with the more gritty sm57.



        But I feel I have a good grasp on recording, especially guitars.. And rarely, have I ever found the 2 Mic approach better than a single Mic.. Obviously the phase issues of 2 mics comes into play, and it can absolutely destroy a recording.. Although there is some simple things to listen for when setting them up that can get them in phase fairly quick..



        When I use 2 mics now, I take the approach of single tracking each Mic, and quad tracking the whole song. So each side has 2 tracks (1 Mic each). This takes any phase issues out of the equation.. Cause even when I get the mics really close to in phase when I use them together, there is always a touch of the comb filtering that I hear..



        And I'll throw out 2 non standard options that I use often.



        EV cardinal condenser.. Can't handle real loud sources, but I've gotten some great sounding recording using just that Mic.. Rather cheap as well.. $99. At least it was when I bought mine..



        I also have a modded Oktava mk 319. The new modded mics are pretty expensive nowadays, but if you can find a used one, it's a great all around Mic.. The 219 is suitable as well. Having an impedance switch on your preamp is key to dialng in that Mic, but I've gotten some of my favorite with that Mic as well
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        • #5
          Yeah the md 421 is kinda the go to Mic to mix with the more gritty sm57.



          But I feel I have a good grasp on recording, especially guitars.. And rarely, have I ever found the 2 Mic approach better than a single Mic.. Obviously the phase issues of 2 mics comes into play, and it can absolutely destroy a recording.. Although there is some simple things to listen for when setting them up that can get them in phase fairly quick..



          When I use 2 mics now, I take the approach of single tracking each Mic, and quad tracking the whole song. So each side has 2 tracks (1 Mic each). This takes any phase issues out of the equation.. Cause even when I get the mics really close to in phase when I use them together, there is always a touch of the comb filtering that I hear..



          And I'll throw out 2 non standard options that I use often.



          EV cardinal condenser.. Can't handle real loud sources, but I've gotten some great sounding recording using just that Mic.. Rather cheap as well.. $99. At least it was when I bought mine..



          I also have a modded Oktava mk 319. The new modded mics are pretty expensive nowadays, but if you can find a used one, it's a great all around Mic.. The 219 is suitable as well. Having an impedance switch on your preamp is key to dialng in that Mic, but I've gotten some of my favorite with that Mic as well
          SPAM




          -Dimarzio Paf 7-$45 or trade for a Duncan custom 7

          -Mick Thomson Blackouts set- $110 or $100 for just pickups, no pots/harnesses

          emg 81 or 85. $50. I'm keeping one, so whichever one sells first..

          -Ibanez Ts9- like new $60

          -Modded ProCo Rat (pm for info) $70

          pm for pics


          Good transactions with- too many.

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          • #6
            57 sounds great and easy to use.



            extra bonus points for using another mic, condenser or whatnot, somewhere in the room and then blending the 2.
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            • #7
              a cascade fathead and an MXL v67.. with proper placement and eq.

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              • #8
                An SM-7b and an Sm-57, but don't plug the '57 in - it's just there to make them think you're clever!
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                • #9
                  I like the 57 cuz you can get great sounds at low volumes...I cant do the condenser thing at the volumes I record at. Ive heard awesome results of the 57 and 421, but man....Im cool with just the 57.
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                  • #10
                    It's not within your hypothetical budget, but we just recorded with an sm57 and a Royer 121 and it sounded amazing. I have an sm57 and md421 though and that combo is definitely good and within the budget.
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                    • #11
                      OK, now that the forum SEEMS to be functional for a moment:



                      Reason I'm asking is I'm currently recording with an e609 + a crappy old condensor and blending them with some phase inversion trickery which sucks some of the harshness out of the 609's basic tonal character. However, the condensor I'm using is horrible about picking up **************** it shouldn't. I have a cricket supply for the geckos in the back corner of the room about twelve feet away from the amp and sometimes I'll hear chirps from them mid riffin' even when I'm cranked up. It's ridiculous. I love the blended tone, HATE the off-axis noise.



                      I keep thinking I should pick up a 421 and a 57. I may end up doing that in the next couple months. I'm starting to get serious about recording again.



                      If only I could get serious about writing good songs again.
                      Originally Posted by Murdoch


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                      Originally Posted by Dr.Picklebottom


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                      • #12
                        The md421 is great for getting some scooped aggression to the mix. For a more even tone I highly recommend the Beyerdynamic M201, a really nice mic for pretty much anything. Here's a short snippet, first the SM57 then the M201:



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                        • #13






                          Quote Originally Posted by nakedzen
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                          The md421 is great for getting some scooped aggression to the mix. For a more even tone I highly recommend the Beyerdynamic M201, a really nice mic for pretty much anything. Here's a short snippet, first the SM57 then the M201:



                          https://soundcloud.com/nakedzen/sm57...rduynamic-m201




                          Nice comparison. I may look into one of those too.
                          Originally Posted by Murdoch


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                          Originally Posted by Dr.Picklebottom


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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE=nightflameauto;47330267]However, the condensor I'm using is horrible about picking up **************** it shouldn't. I have a cricket supply for the geckos in the back corner of the room about twelve feet away from the amp and sometimes I'll hear chirps from them mid riffin' even when I'm cranked up. It's ridiculous. I love the blended tone, HATE the off-axis noise.



                            QUOTE]

                            Heres a trick to reduce flutter echo and extraneous noise with a condensor . Build a mic tent. Get a sleeping bag or a couple thick blankets . Set up the dynamic mic within a fist length of the cone. Then the condensor a foot or so back. Then drap the blankets over the top of the cab and around the mics. Also the louder the amp is cranked the harder it is to get a reasonable sound. good luck!

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                            • #15






                              Quote Originally Posted by Krank'N
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                              Heres a trick to reduce flutter echo and extraneous noise with a condensor . Build a mic tent. Get a sleeping bag or a couple thick blankets . Set up the dynamic mic within a fist length of the cone. Then the condensor a foot or so back. Then drap the blankets over the top of the cab and around the mics. Also the louder the amp is cranked the harder it is to get a reasonable sound. good luck!




                              You know, I actually rearranged my recording room a couple weekends ago and am in the process of putting together a foam "wall" around the cab I use so it may do the same basic thing. Part of that's to block out the external noise, part of it's to block the amp from me while I'm recording so I can hear the drum tracks in the headphones a little better.
                              Originally Posted by Murdoch


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                              Three dicks in an ass, n00b.









                              Originally Posted by Dr.Picklebottom


                              wtf is next? lets talk about our favorite nsync album. i love them all because i was really making strides in my dress making business at the time...

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