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  • Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy
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    See, we agree then. Confiscation? No bueno. A list to hold people accountable? Yessir.





    If gun registration lead to confiscation I will be right there with you. Seriously.





    What I've been fighting for all along is keeping gun ownership above the table. Nothing more, nothing less.




    I know people don't like the idea of the "slippery slope" but if there ever was a reason to invoke that phrase, it is with gun registration. Unlike you, I don't trust that the Government has my best interest at heart. Simple as that.
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    • Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy
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      See, we agree then. Confiscation? No bueno. A list to hold people accountable? Yessir.





      If gun registration lead to confiscation I will be right there with you. Seriously.





      What I've been fighting for all along is keeping gun ownership above the table. Nothing more, nothing less.




      Well then I'd be down. What I'm starting to learn though is that with enough public support they will do whatever they want. I think that's why a lot of us are hesitant to give up that first step. First steps lead to second steps. They really want to confiscate but know it will be so bad if they do. States with registration are discussing forced buy backs. This IS confiscation. They just pay you a little for it. The fact that it is even being discussed tells me that someday they will really try to ram it through.
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      • Where did gun owners get the idea that they have a right to owning guns with no regulation or oversight of any kind?

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        • Quote Originally Posted by Mesa4x12er2
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          Well then I'd be down. What I'm starting to learn though is that with enough public support they will do whatever they want. I think that's why a lot of us are hesitant to give up that first step. First steps lead to second steps. They really want to confiscate but know it will be so bad if they do. States with registration are discussing forced buy backs. This IS confiscation. They just pay you a little for it. The fact that it is even being discussed tells me that someday they will really try to ram it through.




          That's where trusting in the checks and balances is what I fall back on. I think some of the legislators would absolutely try that however our supreme court is in place for a reason. They continue to uphold your rights.



          However by trying to hide guns and keep everything under the table it seems to make swaying public opinion much easier.





          Yet again I think both extremes fail and give each other fodder.

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          • Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy
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            Where did gun owners get the idea that they have a right to owning guns with no regulation or oversight of any kind?




            Simple answer: Propaganda



            The NRA and gun manufacturers spend millions every year trying to convince people that it is in the constitution, whereas anyone with 20 firing neurons knows that it isn't.
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            • Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy
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              Where did gun owners get the idea that they have a right to owning guns with no regulation or oversight of any kind?




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              • Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy
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                That's where trusting in the checks and balances is what I fall back on. I think some of the legislators would absolutely try that however our supreme court is in place for a reason. They continue to uphold your rights.



                However by trying to hide guns and keep everything under the table it seems to make swaying public opinion much easier.





                Yet again I think both extremes fail and give each other fodder.




                Dude I have a CHL. Our state doesn't register guns but they know I have something and that I am legal to carry it around with me so I'm already ****************ed.

                Seriously though I can't say I trust anything necessarily. All these things need is enough public support. Right now it's "Assault Weapons." When they do that and we still have the same **************** it'll be handguns and on and on. This has happened too many places already and even what's happening now is just proof that all you need to do is scare the public. If I was the government that's exactly how I'd do it. Why? Because it would work.
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                • Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy
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                  That's where trusting in the checks and balances is what I fall back on. I think some of the legislators would absolutely try that however our supreme court is in place for a reason. They continue to uphold your rights.



                  However by trying to hide guns and keep everything under the table it seems to make swaying public opinion much easier.





                  Yet again I think both extremes fail and give each other fodder.




                  Dude I have a CHL. Our state doesn't register guns but they know I have something and that I am legal to carry it around with me so I'm already ****************ed.

                  Seriously though I can't say I trust anything necessarily. All these things need is enough public support. Right now it's "Assault Weapons." When they do that and we still have the same **************** it'll be handguns and on and on. This has happened too many places already and even what's happening now is just proof that all you need to do is scare the public. If I was the government that's exactly how I'd do it. Why? Because it would work.
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                      • Quote Originally Posted by DoubleBarrel
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                        Regulation, is the first step towards the ultimate goal of the anit-gun lobby. Which is criminalization and confiscation.




                        You really think the government is going to be able to confiscate guns? I highly doubt that. Its too ingrained in our society and even though there are many people calling for regulation there are just as many people who are adamant about their right to own them. I understand your sentiment and actually feel the same way about other things the government does(Patriot act) but all in all the worst they possibly do is some type of convoluted, neutered act with tons of loopholes like the "assault weapons" ban.
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                        • Quote Originally Posted by MetalHed
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                          Simple answer: Propaganda



                          The NRA and gun manufacturers spend millions every year trying to convince people that it is in the constitution, whereas anyone with 20 firing neurons knows that it isn't.




                          Uh the constitution specifically states I have the right to bear arms and that my right should not be infringed upon. Note they added the not to be infringed upon. Why? Presumably because they knew ****************ers would be infringing on dat ass. So there it is in words. Then to reinforce, the whole purpose was for our arms to be at the same level as the govt so we could fight them if needs be. People bring up the musket **************** but yeah if your enemy is using a musket than having muskets would be equal footing. If they have rifles then in the spirit of why the 2nd was written we were to have them too. It is simply about being able to be on equal footing. Nothing more, nothing less.
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                          • Quote Originally Posted by Mesa4x12er2
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                            Uh the constitution specifically states I have the right to bear arms and that my right should not be infringed upon. Note they added the not to be infringed upon. Why? Presumably because they knew ****************ers would be infringing on dat ass. So there it is in words. Then to reinforce, the whole purpose was for our arms to be at the same level as the govt so we could fight them if needs be. People bring up the musket **************** but yeah if your enemy is using a musket then having muskets would be equal footing. If they have rifles then in the spirit of why the 2nd was written we were to have them too. It is simply about being able to be on equal footing. Nothing more, nothing less.




                            That's just crazy talk...that I agree with.
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                            • Quote Originally Posted by exafro
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                              You really think the government is going to be able to confiscate guns? I highly doubt that. Its too ingrained in our society and even though there are many people calling for regulation there are just as many people who are adamant about their right to own them.




                              Yes. it's the first thing the communists do when they take over



                              Seriously though, they did it with gold in 1933, why wouldn't they be able to do it with guns on 2013 ?
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                              • Quote Originally Posted by DoubleBarrel
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                                Yes. it's the first thing the communists do when they take over



                                Seriously though, they did it with gold in 1933, why wouldn't they be able to do it with guns on 2013 ?




                                What communists are in power right now?
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