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  • Dull sounding Marshall amp.

    I had my tech fit a send/return loop to the rear of my Marshall JMP Mk.2 a while ago.

    After endless hours of messing about with various cabs and drivers, I came to the conclusion that the amp is at fault for the very dull sound it kicks out.

    When playing my Les Paul through the Marshall and a 2x12, it sounds like there is a thick quilt draped over the cab.

    Any ideas please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frosty55
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    I had my tech fit a send/return loop to the rear of my Marshall JMP Mk.2 a while ago.

    After endless hours of messing about with various cabs and drivers, I came to the conclusion that the amp is at fault for the very dull sound it kicks out.

    When playing my Les Paul through the Marshall and a 2x12, it sounds like there is a thick quilt draped over the cab.

    Any ideas please?




    Has that amp had a cap job? JMP MKII is over 30 years old.. it will need that.
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    • #3
      I've never played a full sounding jmp. They are exactly the opposite. Very very bright amplifiers. Sounds like you may have an issue
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        Quote Originally Posted by Norton666
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        I've never played a full sounding jmp. They are exactly the opposite. Very very bright amplifiers. Sounds like you may have an issue




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        • #5
          perhaps he clipped the bright cap while he was in there , usually a good thing though as they can bite your head off , so was it fine before his mod ? Or did this happen over time , from normal to "dull"
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          • #6
            Something is wrong. Marshalls are the opposite of dull.

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            • #7
              When I took the Marshall to my techie, he gave it a complete service. Including fitting a matched quad of JJEL34 Tubes, replacing the electrolytic caps and adjusting the bias. I cant remember exactly how the amp sounded when I got it back in 2005. I kept it locked away for years until deciding to give it a complete overhaul by my techie two years ago.

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              • #8
                Maybe something in the loop he added isn't quite right.

                Does the sound change if you stick a patch cord in the loop?

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                • #9
                  Sounds like the amp's got other issues. Ive never heard a "dull" Marshall.
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                    Quote Originally Posted by Norton666
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                    I've never played a full sounding jmp. They are exactly the opposite. Very very bright amplifiers. Sounds like you may have an issue




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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE=drewl;47360770]Maybe something in the loop he added isn't quite right.

                      Does the sound change if you stick a patch cord in the loop?[/QUOTE

                      Yes. I suck a patch cord in the loop and the clarity has returned !!

                      What happened there then?

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                      • #12
                        Either one of the fx loop jacks is intermittant/dirty or not wired correctly.

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                        • #13
                          yeah spray some cleaner on a 1/4" jack and push it in and out while cranking salt and peppers "push it" and see if the problem goes away
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                          • #14
                            Whats the best cleaner to do that with?

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                              Quote Originally Posted by frosty55
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                              Whats the best cleaner to do that with?




                              Lysol



                              any electronic cleaner will do
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