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  • #31






    Quote Originally Posted by roland
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    I just sold a '62 brown 6G2 Princeton a couple months ago. I had that amp for 20 years and never really liked it. Tried different speakers, tubes, re-capped it, and added adjustable bias. Maybe it was just a dud amp, it didn't have the buttery tweed or classic BF/SF sound, just kinda harsh and blah. My buddy has a SF Princeton Reverb and his amp sounded much better than mine.




    How many different speakers? I went through about a dozen on my 6G2 until I found one I liked - Weber 10A125. Tried the original Oxford, vintage Jensens, vintage Celestions, modern Celestions, Eminence and a half dozen other Webers until I found the right one. Still not my favorite amp, but I could deal with it if it was my only amp now, and better than an AA964 any day of the week.

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    • #32






      Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
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      How many different speakers? I went through about a dozen on my 6G2 until I found one I liked - Weber 10A125. Tried the original Oxford, vintage Jensens, vintage Celestions, modern Celestions, Eminence and a half dozen other Webers until I found the right one. Still not my favorite amp, but I could deal with it if it was my only amp now, and better than an AA964 any day of the week.




      My main speaker for that amp was a Weber 10F150T which was recommended by the fender forum. Also tried various Celestions, Eminence, etc.

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      • #33






        Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
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        How many different speakers? I went through about a dozen on my 6G2 until I found one I liked - Weber 10A125. Tried the original Oxford, vintage Jensens, vintage Celestions, modern Celestions, Eminence and a half dozen other Webers until I found the right one. Still not my favorite amp, but I could deal with it if it was my only amp now, and better than an AA964 any day of the week.




        My main speaker for that amp was a Weber 10F150T which was recommended by the fender forum. Also tried various Celestions, Eminence, etc.

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        • #34






          Quote Originally Posted by roland
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          My main speaker for that amp was a Weber 10F150T which was recommended by the fender forum. Also tried various Celestions, Eminence, etc.




          10F150T is the same cone as the 10A125, but a has a considerably larger ceramic magnet, which will make the high end harsh in some applications. It's one of their more popular 10" speakers though.

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          • #35






            Quote Originally Posted by roland
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            My main speaker for that amp was a Weber 10F150T which was recommended by the fender forum. Also tried various Celestions, Eminence, etc.




            10F150T is the same cone as the 10A125, but a has a considerably larger ceramic magnet, which will make the high end harsh in some applications. It's one of their more popular 10" speakers though.

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            • #36
              I think I'm going to build an AA1164 head with upgraded iron. I can add an extra gain stage, tone stack bypass and tremolo bypass for max. gain. I'm thinking of pairing it with a Forte 3d loaded with a Weber 12F150. Is there another speaker I should be looking at for maximum sparkle?

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              • #37






                Quote Originally Posted by Kap'n
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                No. See the second half of my note. The non-reverb BF/SF Princeton is probably the least valuable of the classic Fender push-pull combos, with perhaps the exception of the MusicMaster Bass, while the reverb version has skyrocketed in the past few years. My guess is that a LOT of other people share my view.




                I agree, I've had both the Princeton and several Princeton reverbs and the Princeton reverbs sound better in my opinion. I happen to like the MusicMaster Bass amp too in low volume situations.
                Originally Posted by DrakkarTyrannis


                I'm a drag queen..not Jesus Christ









                Originally Posted by LuckisforLosers


                Don't sound like Korn.

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                • #38






                  Quote Originally Posted by TheRymanChu
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                  I think I'm going to build an AA1164 head with upgraded iron. I can add an extra gain stage, tone stack bypass and tremolo bypass for max. gain. I'm thinking of pairing it with a Forte 3d loaded with a Weber 12F150. Is there another speaker I should be looking at for maximum sparkle?




                  In my experience, Princetons are naturally bright sounding amps, I don't you'll have a problem with sparkle (if your definition of sparkle is the same as mine).
                  Originally Posted by DrakkarTyrannis


                  I'm a drag queen..not Jesus Christ









                  Originally Posted by LuckisforLosers


                  Don't sound like Korn.

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                  • #39






                    Quote Originally Posted by TheRymanChu
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                    I think I'm going to build an AA1164 head with upgraded iron. I can add an extra gain stage, tone stack bypass and tremolo bypass for max. gain. I'm thinking of pairing it with a Forte 3d loaded with a Weber 12F150. Is there another speaker I should be looking at for maximum sparkle?




                    In my experience, Princetons are naturally bright sounding amps, I don't you'll have a problem with sparkle (if your definition of sparkle is the same as mine).
                    Originally Posted by DrakkarTyrannis


                    I'm a drag queen..not Jesus Christ









                    Originally Posted by LuckisforLosers


                    Don't sound like Korn.

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                    • #40






                      Quote Originally Posted by TheRymanChu
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                      I think I'm going to build an AA1164 head with upgraded iron. I can add an extra gain stage, tone stack bypass and tremolo bypass for max. gain. I'm thinking of pairing it with a Forte 3d loaded with a Weber 12F150. Is there another speaker I should be looking at for maximum sparkle?




                      Be prepared to do some tweaking. That's boogie territory. One of the reasons those Mark amps are so tedious to dial in is because they're BF Fender circuits with added gain stages. How long did it take Randy to get it right? Some people think he never did.

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                      • #41






                        Quote Originally Posted by TheRymanChu
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                        I think I'm going to build an AA1164 head with upgraded iron. I can add an extra gain stage, tone stack bypass and tremolo bypass for max. gain. I'm thinking of pairing it with a Forte 3d loaded with a Weber 12F150. Is there another speaker I should be looking at for maximum sparkle?




                        Be prepared to do some tweaking. That's boogie territory. One of the reasons those Mark amps are so tedious to dial in is because they're BF Fender circuits with added gain stages. How long did it take Randy to get it right? Some people think he never did.

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