Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Its a patch i downloaded from the free part, its profiled from a roadster under the name SASHA. I ruined the bass tracking due to my bass player pilfering my low string for a gig and its me playing bass so i buried it lol Finished mix. I am loving the ease of the kemper.https://soundcloud.com/brootz/the-last-bucket-of-fun Mix with a bit of thought put into it.https://soundcloud.com/brootz/2-buckets-of-fun Original mixhttps://soundcloud.com/brootz/buckets-of-fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris.novak Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Sounds awesome.im getting a kemper this year once my little one gets a bit older. I have noticed a few of the high gain clips have a gate sound going on. Are you using th gate and if so is there a lot of noise without it? Also, I have heard that quad tracking leads to thinner sound with the kemper. Is it possible you could quad track this one so I can see what it's like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris.novak Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Sounds awesome.im getting a kemper this year once my little one gets a bit older. I have noticed a few of the high gain clips have a gate sound going on. Are you using th gate and if so is there a lot of noise without it? Also, I have heard that quad tracking leads to thinner sound with the kemper. Is it possible you could quad track this one so I can see what it's like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak Sounds awesome.im getting a kemper this year once my little one gets a bit older. I have noticed a few of the high gain clips have a gate sound going on. Are you using th gate and if so is there a lot of noise without it?Also, I have heard that quad tracking leads to thinner sound with the kemper. Is it possible you could quad track this one so I can see what it's like? Not much gate on this track man, but i did cut it in post processing with automation and i wasnt very accurate ;P That said the gate is amazing for live and the studio, it doesn't miss anything and if its set high enough it cuts right where you need it to. My only issue with the gate is that the bass isnt quite cut off the same time the highs are, turning the gate up a smidge more stops this but i was still like *WTF* I dont have the guitar here that i did this with man, but i will do another up with a different tuning for ya. There are only 2 tracks here, i cannot see th need for 4 of them though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak Sounds awesome.im getting a kemper this year once my little one gets a bit older. I have noticed a few of the high gain clips have a gate sound going on. Are you using th gate and if so is there a lot of noise without it?Also, I have heard that quad tracking leads to thinner sound with the kemper. Is it possible you could quad track this one so I can see what it's like? Not much gate on this track man, but i did cut it in post processing with automation and i wasnt very accurate ;P That said the gate is amazing for live and the studio, it doesn't miss anything and if its set high enough it cuts right where you need it to. My only issue with the gate is that the bass isnt quite cut off the same time the highs are, turning the gate up a smidge more stops this but i was still like *WTF* I dont have the guitar here that i did this with man, but i will do another up with a different tuning for ya. There are only 2 tracks here, i cannot see th need for 4 of them though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 I might play a riff, the layer it 4 times adding one by one in. But i doubt it gets thinner, i only heard that if you reamp it can get phasing issues from the internal clock having a floating master time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 I might play a riff, the layer it 4 times adding one by one in. But i doubt it gets thinner, i only heard that if you reamp it can get phasing issues from the internal clock having a floating master time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 here's the sample of 4 tracks. Each time the track finishes a loop, another track is added, 2 tracks hard panned each side. Its my classic 50 i profiled, i also use this as my main rhythm channel live.https://soundcloud.com/brootz/not-thin-here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 here's the sample of 4 tracks. Each time the track finishes a loop, another track is added, 2 tracks hard panned each side. Its my classic 50 i profiled, i also use this as my main rhythm channel live.https://soundcloud.com/brootz/not-thin-here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris.novak Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Man thanks for that! It sounds thick. I often quad track a chorus or use quad on accents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris.novak Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Man thanks for that! It sounds thick. I often quad track a chorus or use quad on accents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak Man thanks for that! It sounds thick. I often quad track a chorus or use quad on accents. Cheers man, the chorus is pretty sweet on this too, very wide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak Man thanks for that! It sounds thick. I often quad track a chorus or use quad on accents. Cheers man, the chorus is pretty sweet on this too, very wide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris.novak Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 I had a go on a kemper at a london music store. I went through the factory profiles which I thought were amazing compared to my old hd500(I know a lot say the factory profiles are rubbish). But I realised they had me playing through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris.novak Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 I had a go on a kemper at a london music store. I went through the factory profiles which I thought were amazing compared to my old hd500(I know a lot say the factory profiles are rubbish). But I realised they had me playing through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nakedzen Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak Another question, have you used modellers to record before? If so how do you find adding post eq reacts with the kemper compared to modellers? I always found modellers to react badly to eq where a mic'd up amp reacted just as you would want too. From my experience you need to use post eq differently with the Kemper than how you would treat tube amp tracks to get the same results. You can get the same end result, you just need to approach it a bit differently, ie. not cut as much low end and not boost the highs/presence as much. If you boost the presence like you'd with a tube amp track it can get pretty piercing and thin fast. My 2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nakedzen Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak Another question, have you used modellers to record before? If so how do you find adding post eq reacts with the kemper compared to modellers? I always found modellers to react badly to eq where a mic'd up amp reacted just as you would want too. From my experience you need to use post eq differently with the Kemper than how you would treat tube amp tracks to get the same results. You can get the same end result, you just need to approach it a bit differently, ie. not cut as much low end and not boost the highs/presence as much. If you boost the presence like you'd with a tube amp track it can get pretty piercing and thin fast. My 2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak I had a go on a kemper at a london music store. I went through the factory profiles which I thought were amazing compared to my old hd500(I know a lot say the factory profiles are rubbish). But I realised they had me playing through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak I had a go on a kemper at a london music store. I went through the factory profiles which I thought were amazing compared to my old hd500(I know a lot say the factory profiles are rubbish). But I realised they had me playing through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak I had a go on a kemper at a london music store. I went through the factory profiles which I thought were amazing compared to my old hd500(I know a lot say the factory profiles are rubbish). But I realised they had me playing through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by Chris.novak I had a go on a kemper at a london music store. I went through the factory profiles which I thought were amazing compared to my old hd500(I know a lot say the factory profiles are rubbish). But I realised they had me playing through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by nakedzen From my experience you need to use post eq differently with the Kemper than how you would treat tube amp tracks to get the same results. You can get the same end result, you just need to approach it a bit differently, ie. not cut as much low end and not boost the highs/presence as much. If you boost the presence like you'd with a tube amp track it can get pretty piercing and thin fast. My 2c I find it gets shrill very fast too. Usually i always boost 5000hz and up but the kemper need half of what i would normally do, even with my own profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted January 1, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by nakedzen From my experience you need to use post eq differently with the Kemper than how you would treat tube amp tracks to get the same results. You can get the same end result, you just need to approach it a bit differently, ie. not cut as much low end and not boost the highs/presence as much. If you boost the presence like you'd with a tube amp track it can get pretty piercing and thin fast. My 2c I find it gets shrill very fast too. Usually i always boost 5000hz and up but the kemper need half of what i would normally do, even with my own profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris.novak Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 I generally go hard with the high and low cut leaving loads of room for bass guitar and drums and highs for the vocals. I found with modellers that high and low cut ended me with a horrible fuzz mess that still remained strong in a mix. Couldn't stand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris.novak Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 I generally go hard with the high and low cut leaving loads of room for bass guitar and drums and highs for the vocals. I found with modellers that high and low cut ended me with a horrible fuzz mess that still remained strong in a mix. Couldn't stand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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