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  • #31






    Quote Originally Posted by wok
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    Unfortunately, I don't have one and they are hard to come by these days. Is there a way to emulate this (VST or EQ settings?)








    There's always a couple in Guitar Center's used section online.



    Found two for $35 today.

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    • #32
      Ampeg vh140c (or ss140 or 150). They are similar (but better) than the Crate Shockwave which is the tone on Pig Destroyer's "Terrifyer" I like that tone alot. Randall ss are good too.

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      • #33
        Ampeg vh140c (or ss140 or 150). They are similar (but better) than the Crate Shockwave which is the tone on Pig Destroyer's "Terrifyer" I like that tone alot. Randall ss are good too.

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        • #34






          Quote Originally Posted by ENdtime
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          Yeah, I know, I've seen it.. I've tried it.. Turn all knobs to 10 and see what happens..lol..



          I'm not dismissing the use of the pedal so much, but it's the "instant entombed" claim, cause it's really not.. To get that hugeness that is on the first 2 albums has a lot to do with other factors, thats all I'm saying.. All knobs on 10 sounds like a garbled mess.. And even when you do get a sound that is usable, it's no where near that big.. They struck a bit of magic with the right cab, placement, etc. to get that girth..



          And mic'ed from behind the speaker cab? Lol.. I'm telling you I think they are pulling a van Halen and bull****************ing exactly what they did.. They may have had a Mic back there, I've actually tried it, but there is no way that is the only Mic..




          Well I mean of course a single guitar, playing out of context, without a second guitar or bass isn't going to sound like an album Just like everything else I'm sure those solo'd guitar tracks sound like crap on their own.
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          • #35






            Quote Originally Posted by ENdtime
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            Yeah, I know, I've seen it.. I've tried it.. Turn all knobs to 10 and see what happens..lol..



            I'm not dismissing the use of the pedal so much, but it's the "instant entombed" claim, cause it's really not.. To get that hugeness that is on the first 2 albums has a lot to do with other factors, thats all I'm saying.. All knobs on 10 sounds like a garbled mess.. And even when you do get a sound that is usable, it's no where near that big.. They struck a bit of magic with the right cab, placement, etc. to get that girth..



            And mic'ed from behind the speaker cab? Lol.. I'm telling you I think they are pulling a van Halen and bull****************ing exactly what they did.. They may have had a Mic back there, I've actually tried it, but there is no way that is the only Mic..




            Well I mean of course a single guitar, playing out of context, without a second guitar or bass isn't going to sound like an album Just like everything else I'm sure those solo'd guitar tracks sound like crap on their own.
            There is no order in the world, save what death has put there.

            Billows
            Fender::Matamp::Acoustic

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            • #36






              Quote Originally Posted by ENdtime
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              Which at the time weren't that high gain.. So maybe use the jcm 800 or better yet 900 emulation and hit it with different dirt boxes.. Basically you need the low end to be more undefined and distorted to get that old late 80's grind tine












              Quote Originally Posted by HottKarl
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              Lay a dirty bass track underneath.






              yeah, gotta get some real nasty dirt on there with a chunky bass and that'll really go far.
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              • #37






                Quote Originally Posted by ENdtime
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                Which at the time weren't that high gain.. So maybe use the jcm 800 or better yet 900 emulation and hit it with different dirt boxes.. Basically you need the low end to be more undefined and distorted to get that old late 80's grind tine












                Quote Originally Posted by HottKarl
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                Lay a dirty bass track underneath.






                yeah, gotta get some real nasty dirt on there with a chunky bass and that'll really go far.
                Me
                Sexcrement
                Parasitic Extirpation
                Dysentery

                Carvin DC747C - Schecter Hellraiser 7 - Gibson Gary Moore LP - Ibanez RS300
                Mesa 2 ch Dual Recto - Ampeg VH-150 - Peavey VTM 120 - Mesa Recto OS 4x12- Marshall 1960B
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                • #38






                  Quote Originally Posted by Rindgecore
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                  yeah, gotta get some real nasty dirt on there with a chunky bass and that'll really go far.




                  no more sig

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                  • #39






                    Quote Originally Posted by Rindgecore
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                    yeah, gotta get some real nasty dirt on there with a chunky bass and that'll really go far.




                    no more sig

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                    • #40
                      hahah yup im back
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                      Carvin DC747C - Schecter Hellraiser 7 - Gibson Gary Moore LP - Ibanez RS300
                      Mesa 2 ch Dual Recto - Ampeg VH-150 - Peavey VTM 120 - Mesa Recto OS 4x12- Marshall 1960B
                      & way more stuff

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                      • #41
                        hahah yup im back
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                        Carvin DC747C - Schecter Hellraiser 7 - Gibson Gary Moore LP - Ibanez RS300
                        Mesa 2 ch Dual Recto - Ampeg VH-150 - Peavey VTM 120 - Mesa Recto OS 4x12- Marshall 1960B
                        & way more stuff

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                        • #42
                          Yeah, I'm totally serious about the bass. You listen to some of those bands who used the HM-2 back then, their guitar tone was pure **************** by itself. Add a second guitar, it got a little better. Add a really dirty bass guitar underneath, crank all to gig volume and go....that was the sound.



                          I saw Dismember, Grave and Entombed back in the early 90's and it was very evident....you needed all the pieces to really get that dirty, nasty grind.
                          Originally Posted by Rear Naked


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                          • #43
                            Yeah, I'm totally serious about the bass. You listen to some of those bands who used the HM-2 back then, their guitar tone was pure **************** by itself. Add a second guitar, it got a little better. Add a really dirty bass guitar underneath, crank all to gig volume and go....that was the sound.



                            I saw Dismember, Grave and Entombed back in the early 90's and it was very evident....you needed all the pieces to really get that dirty, nasty grind.
                            Originally Posted by Rear Naked


                            you have a "before" pic of your ****************************???



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                            Good deals: Rfaranda, Goodisonrock, Cobrahead1030, Ricky Bobby, STEEL KAGE, tsunamijesus, Dark Slide, superflyinmonke, boltzthrower, itkindaworks, Shenaniganizer, Rhammer19, downer01, Caveman Riddle, RockStarBassist

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                            • #44
                              And I've got a HM-2 that I run into a cheap Boss preamp (set to a 5150 preset), running into a cranked stereo Marshall Monoblock. My settings on the HM-2 are not 'All knobs to 11' to get that old Sunlight Studio sound. They're more like (in o'clock):



                              Level: 12:30-10...too much of this and it gets noisy.

                              Lo: Around 100....too much of this and it gets very mushy.

                              Hi: Set all the way up 50....this is the true grind of the pedal.

                              Distortion: Barely on...maybe 80. Just enough to get a little dirt.



                              With those settings, I pretty much nail Entombed/Dismember.
                              Originally Posted by Rear Naked


                              you have a "before" pic of your ****************************???



                              SPAM:
                              TC Flashback Delay

                              Good deals: Rfaranda, Goodisonrock, Cobrahead1030, Ricky Bobby, STEEL KAGE, tsunamijesus, Dark Slide, superflyinmonke, boltzthrower, itkindaworks, Shenaniganizer, Rhammer19, downer01, Caveman Riddle, RockStarBassist

                              HottKarl's Tunes on Soundcloud

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                              • #45
                                And I've got a HM-2 that I run into a cheap Boss preamp (set to a 5150 preset), running into a cranked stereo Marshall Monoblock. My settings on the HM-2 are not 'All knobs to 11' to get that old Sunlight Studio sound. They're more like (in o'clock):



                                Level: 12:30-10...too much of this and it gets noisy.

                                Lo: Around 100....too much of this and it gets very mushy.

                                Hi: Set all the way up 50....this is the true grind of the pedal.

                                Distortion: Barely on...maybe 80. Just enough to get a little dirt.



                                With those settings, I pretty much nail Entombed/Dismember.
                                Originally Posted by Rear Naked


                                you have a "before" pic of your ****************************???



                                SPAM:
                                TC Flashback Delay

                                Good deals: Rfaranda, Goodisonrock, Cobrahead1030, Ricky Bobby, STEEL KAGE, tsunamijesus, Dark Slide, superflyinmonke, boltzthrower, itkindaworks, Shenaniganizer, Rhammer19, downer01, Caveman Riddle, RockStarBassist

                                HottKarl's Tunes on Soundcloud

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