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  • #16
    Princeton Recording DI out -> M-Audio NRV10 FireWire -> MacBook with Traction
    "It's all sratched up, Zuzu"Your wattage may vary

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    • #17
      Princeton Recording DI out -> M-Audio NRV10 FireWire -> MacBook with Traction
      "It's all sratched up, Zuzu"Your wattage may vary

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      • #18






        Quote Originally Posted by Jesse G
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        Use some cab sims with your amp sims to get your amp sims sounding good. Impulse Responses will make your fizzy raw direct sound sound like a nice mic'd sound.



        I'd suggest downloading "God's Cab" impulses, it is a file library of impulses created by recording white noise though a mesa cab in a nice room with a bunch of mics you can choose from and multiple positions for each. They use Impulse Responses to capture the sound of a cab/mic/room setup the same way they do it to get reverbs that sound like Madison Square Garden. The files are labeled and organized in the God's Cab folder by the Mic, position and distance.



        1. Go into your amp sim and take whatever cab/mic settings are on your presets and turn them off.



        2. Load the Space Designer plugin in Logic onto your guitar track to load the Impulse responses.



        3. Go to "Load IR" in Space Designer and start loading impulse files to see which ones you like. Turn the "direct" slider down to zero so you only get the affected sound.





        To learnmore about Impulse Responses, search google and youtube.




        Awesome. Thanks a lot.



        Mike

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        • #19






          Quote Originally Posted by Jesse G
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          Use some cab sims with your amp sims to get your amp sims sounding good. Impulse Responses will make your fizzy raw direct sound sound like a nice mic'd sound.



          I'd suggest downloading "God's Cab" impulses, it is a file library of impulses created by recording white noise though a mesa cab in a nice room with a bunch of mics you can choose from and multiple positions for each. They use Impulse Responses to capture the sound of a cab/mic/room setup the same way they do it to get reverbs that sound like Madison Square Garden. The files are labeled and organized in the God's Cab folder by the Mic, position and distance.



          1. Go into your amp sim and take whatever cab/mic settings are on your presets and turn them off.



          2. Load the Space Designer plugin in Logic onto your guitar track to load the Impulse responses.



          3. Go to "Load IR" in Space Designer and start loading impulse files to see which ones you like. Turn the "direct" slider down to zero so you only get the affected sound.





          To learnmore about Impulse Responses, search google and youtube.




          Awesome. Thanks a lot.



          Mike

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          • #20






            Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul6
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            So I'm kind of new to the DAW thing. I made the jump from Garageband to Logic Pro 9. I am working my way throught the Apple Logic Pro Training book with cd's and getting to the point where I wanted to try recording a song. I'm a guitar player but I also have a bass, an acoustic drum kit on which I can at least play some grooves, plus I own a bass and a midi controller. I ahve a Profire 2626 which has a lot of mic inouts.



            Anyway, strating with the guitar I ahve tried using the Apple built in Amp designer and got some decent tones, I also tried using a Digitech IPB-10, which is really just the RP1000 with and ipad interface. ITs very easy to record using both of these methods but I feel the gutiar is just too up front and raw. Everyone says its easier to record direct but I think I might just mic up my Peavey 6505+ tonight and see how that sounds.



            How are you guys recording guitars into your project.



            Thanks,



            Mike




            I'm with the other folks "up front and raw" sounds more like a lack of reverb than your guitar technique. You can fix that either using the real room ambience, if it is nice, or simulating it. I also use the Lepou Cab Sims, I especially like the set of Impulse Responses from Voxengo. That is called convolution reverb if you want to read up on the concept, pros and cons. Alternatively, any decent reverb plugin, most are algorithmic reverbs, again if you wanna school yourself. Usually for a regular guitar amp sound, one that is not 'up front and raw' but doesn't sound affected, you want mostly early reflection reverberations.

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            • #21






              Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul6
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              So I'm kind of new to the DAW thing. I made the jump from Garageband to Logic Pro 9. I am working my way throught the Apple Logic Pro Training book with cd's and getting to the point where I wanted to try recording a song. I'm a guitar player but I also have a bass, an acoustic drum kit on which I can at least play some grooves, plus I own a bass and a midi controller. I ahve a Profire 2626 which has a lot of mic inouts.



              Anyway, strating with the guitar I ahve tried using the Apple built in Amp designer and got some decent tones, I also tried using a Digitech IPB-10, which is really just the RP1000 with and ipad interface. ITs very easy to record using both of these methods but I feel the gutiar is just too up front and raw. Everyone says its easier to record direct but I think I might just mic up my Peavey 6505+ tonight and see how that sounds.



              How are you guys recording guitars into your project.



              Thanks,



              Mike




              I'm with the other folks "up front and raw" sounds more like a lack of reverb than your guitar technique. You can fix that either using the real room ambience, if it is nice, or simulating it. I also use the Lepou Cab Sims, I especially like the set of Impulse Responses from Voxengo. That is called convolution reverb if you want to read up on the concept, pros and cons. Alternatively, any decent reverb plugin, most are algorithmic reverbs, again if you wanna school yourself. Usually for a regular guitar amp sound, one that is not 'up front and raw' but doesn't sound affected, you want mostly early reflection reverberations.

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              • #22






                Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul6
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                So I'm kind of new to the DAW thing. I made the jump from Garageband to Logic Pro 9. I am working my way throught the Apple Logic Pro Training book with cd's and getting to the point where I wanted to try recording a song. I'm a guitar player but I also have a bass, an acoustic drum kit on which I can at least play some grooves, plus I own a bass and a midi controller. I ahve a Profire 2626 which has a lot of mic inouts.



                Anyway, strating with the guitar I ahve tried using the Apple built in Amp designer and got some decent tones, I also tried using a Digitech IPB-10, which is really just the RP1000 with and ipad interface. ITs very easy to record using both of these methods but I feel the gutiar is just too up front and raw. Everyone says its easier to record direct but I think I might just mic up my Peavey 6505+ tonight and see how that sounds.



                How are you guys recording guitars into your project.



                Thanks,



                Mike




                I'm with the other folks "up front and raw" sounds more like a lack of reverb than your guitar technique. You can fix that either using the real room ambience, if it is nice, or simulating it. I also use the Lepou Cab Sims, I especially like the set of Impulse Responses from Voxengo. That is called convolution reverb if you want to read up on the concept, pros and cons. Alternatively, any decent reverb plugin, most are algorithmic reverbs, again if you wanna school yourself. Usually for a regular guitar amp sound, one that is not 'up front and raw' but doesn't sound affected, you want mostly early reflection reverberations.

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                • #23






                  Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul6
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                  So I'm kind of new to the DAW thing. I made the jump from Garageband to Logic Pro 9. I am working my way throught the Apple Logic Pro Training book with cd's and getting to the point where I wanted to try recording a song. I'm a guitar player but I also have a bass, an acoustic drum kit on which I can at least play some grooves, plus I own a bass and a midi controller. I ahve a Profire 2626 which has a lot of mic inouts.



                  Anyway, strating with the guitar I ahve tried using the Apple built in Amp designer and got some decent tones, I also tried using a Digitech IPB-10, which is really just the RP1000 with and ipad interface. ITs very easy to record using both of these methods but I feel the gutiar is just too up front and raw. Everyone says its easier to record direct but I think I might just mic up my Peavey 6505+ tonight and see how that sounds.



                  How are you guys recording guitars into your project.



                  Thanks,



                  Mike




                  I'm with the other folks "up front and raw" sounds more like a lack of reverb than your guitar technique. You can fix that either using the real room ambience, if it is nice, or simulating it. I also use the Lepou Cab Sims, I especially like the set of Impulse Responses from Voxengo. That is called convolution reverb if you want to read up on the concept, pros and cons. Alternatively, any decent reverb plugin, most are algorithmic reverbs, again if you wanna school yourself. Usually for a regular guitar amp sound, one that is not 'up front and raw' but doesn't sound affected, you want mostly early reflection reverberations.

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                  • #24






                    Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul6
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                    So I'm kind of new to the DAW thing. I made the jump from Garageband to Logic Pro 9. I am working my way throught the Apple Logic Pro Training book with cd's and getting to the point where I wanted to try recording a song. I'm a guitar player but I also have a bass, an acoustic drum kit on which I can at least play some grooves, plus I own a bass and a midi controller. I ahve a Profire 2626 which has a lot of mic inouts.



                    Anyway, strating with the guitar I ahve tried using the Apple built in Amp designer and got some decent tones, I also tried using a Digitech IPB-10, which is really just the RP1000 with and ipad interface. ITs very easy to record using both of these methods but I feel the gutiar is just too up front and raw. Everyone says its easier to record direct but I think I might just mic up my Peavey 6505+ tonight and see how that sounds.



                    How are you guys recording guitars into your project.



                    Thanks,



                    Mike




                    I'm with the other folks re "up front and raw" sounds like a lack of reverb.



                    You can fix that either using the real room ambience, if it is nice, or simulating it. I also use the Lepou Cab Sims, I especially like the set of Impulse Responses from Voxengo. That is called convolution reverb if you want to read up on the concept, the pros and cons. Alternatively use any decent reverb plugin, most are algorithmic reverbs, again if you wanna school yourself. Usually for a regular guitar amp sound, one that is not 'up front and raw' but doesn't sound affected, you want mostly early reflection reverberations.

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                    • #25






                      Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul6
                      View Post

                      So I'm kind of new to the DAW thing. I made the jump from Garageband to Logic Pro 9. I am working my way throught the Apple Logic Pro Training book with cd's and getting to the point where I wanted to try recording a song. I'm a guitar player but I also have a bass, an acoustic drum kit on which I can at least play some grooves, plus I own a bass and a midi controller. I ahve a Profire 2626 which has a lot of mic inouts.



                      Anyway, strating with the guitar I ahve tried using the Apple built in Amp designer and got some decent tones, I also tried using a Digitech IPB-10, which is really just the RP1000 with and ipad interface. ITs very easy to record using both of these methods but I feel the gutiar is just too up front and raw. Everyone says its easier to record direct but I think I might just mic up my Peavey 6505+ tonight and see how that sounds.



                      How are you guys recording guitars into your project.



                      Thanks,



                      Mike




                      I'm with the other folks re "up front and raw" sounds like a lack of reverb.



                      You can fix that either using the real room ambience, if it is nice, or simulating it. I also use the Lepou Cab Sims, I especially like the set of Impulse Responses from Voxengo. That is called convolution reverb if you want to read up on the concept, the pros and cons. Alternatively use any decent reverb plugin, most are algorithmic reverbs, again if you wanna school yourself. Usually for a regular guitar amp sound, one that is not 'up front and raw' but doesn't sound affected, you want mostly early reflection reverberations.

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                      • #26






                        Quote Originally Posted by Cirrus
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                        Well I pretty much always record an amp because of two reasons.



                        Firstly, I get inspired when I play through a real amp. It might be old school but its true and I do what I can to feel excited about the music I'm making.



                        Secondly, I have plenty of experience of loud rock amps so I've learned what sounds in the room tend to get me where I want to be on record.



                        The exception is when I want a deliberately effected sound.




                        This is pretty much me too. It's not that I haven't been able to get good sounds through going direct/amp sims/etc., but micing up real sounds is where I find my fun.
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                        • #27






                          Quote Originally Posted by Cirrus
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                          Well I pretty much always record an amp because of two reasons.



                          Firstly, I get inspired when I play through a real amp. It might be old school but its true and I do what I can to feel excited about the music I'm making.



                          Secondly, I have plenty of experience of loud rock amps so I've learned what sounds in the room tend to get me where I want to be on record.



                          The exception is when I want a deliberately effected sound.




                          This is pretty much me too. It's not that I haven't been able to get good sounds through going direct/amp sims/etc., but micing up real sounds is where I find my fun.
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                          • #28
                            I split my signal to the amp with a direct box. Mic my amp and then also have a clean/dry signal for reamping, running through my GSP 1101, or amp sims.

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                            • #29
                              I split my signal to the amp with a direct box. Mic my amp and then also have a clean/dry signal for reamping, running through my GSP 1101, or amp sims.

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