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  • OT: how can I add silence at the start of a tune in Cubase?

    Hi,



    I use Cubase 7 and I usually start my projects right at bar one, but then later when exporting an audio mix-down I like to have 2 or 3 seconds of silence on the track before the tune starts.



    Now I do know that I can select a range and choose the option add silence which works, but the problem with that is that this shift's my whole tune on the 'meter track' , normally this would not be a problem, but I have changing meters in most of my tunes, so then all of a sudden the bars don't align with the takes anymore.



    Therefore I was wondering if there is any other way of inserting a few seconds of silence to an audio mix-down?



    Thanks,

    Lars
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    can you set the locators to go beyond the start and right click , enter amount of extra bars ?
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    • #3






      Quote Originally Posted by fretless
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      can you set the locators to go beyond the start and right click , enter amount of extra bars ?




      No, the meter track (I think it's called transport track or something like that) starts right at bar 1, so if I start recording right there, I can't set the locate any sooner than bar one.

      In new projects I simply start my recording at one bar after, but in existing projects this is a bit of a problem.

      I mean the 'add silence' at selected range works fine, but it screws up my signatures, I guess I will just either have to live with it, OR fix the meters.
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      • #4
        Highlight and drag all tracks down the timeline a few seconds. Or, drop the mixdown into a new project, and drag it down a few seconds.

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        • #5
          There should be a way that you can drag all' tracks at the same time keeping them in sync. In Cubase you hold either the CTRL, or the Shift key to do it. I forget right now! You can always hit undo if you mess something up.

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          • #6
            Thanks.

            Yes, I know this would work, but the timeline (which marks the measures) won't scroll along with the project tracks, that is my problem. The measure marks won't align with the actual bars/measures of the tracks anymore since I have several meter changes in some of my tunes.



            I guess there is no easy around changing the timeline/bar track along with this
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            • #7
              Add the silence during mastering. Mixdown your song, export and save. Import as stereo track in mastering , shift as many seconds as needed, export new stereo mastered track with 2-3 sec silence between program material.

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              • #8






                Quote Originally Posted by Santuzzo
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                I guess there is no easy around changing the timeline/bar track along with this




                Apart from not starting your takes at bar 1, I haven't found an easy way to do this either. But you should be aware that this is a *good idea* anyway, give your tracks a bit of space before you start so you can do short fade-ins. That way you won't have an abrupt sound from silence at the start of your track which sounds a bit more natural.
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                  Quote Originally Posted by HKSblade1
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                  Add the silence during mastering. Mixdown your song, export and save. Import as stereo track in mastering , shift as many seconds as needed, export new stereo mastered track with 2-3 sec silence between program material.




                  Thanks!









                  Quote Originally Posted by MadKeithV
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                  Apart from not starting your takes at bar 1, I haven't found an easy way to do this either. But you should be aware that this is a *good idea* anyway, give your tracks a bit of space before you start so you can do short fade-ins. That way you won't have an abrupt sound from silence at the start of your track which sounds a bit more natural.




                  Thanks!

                  Yeah, in newer projects I am already doing this (starting at bar 2), but this was a project I started some time ago and then I did not think of this.
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                    Quote Originally Posted by Santuzzo
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                    Yeah, in newer projects I am already doing this (starting at bar 2), but this was a project I started some time ago and then I did not think of this.




                    I only learned this trick after getting a reaming by a studio engineer who had to spend an hour or so cleaning up takes because I didn't do that right, nor have "snap to zero crossings" on correctly when cutting up tracks.

                    You try stuff, and make mistakes, and do it again, and make less mistakes ;-)
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                    • #11






                      Quote Originally Posted by MadKeithV
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                      I only learned this trick after getting a reaming by a studio engineer who had to spend an hour or so cleaning up takes because I didn't do that right, nor have "snap to zero crossings" on correctly when cutting up tracks.

                      You try stuff, and make mistakes, and do it again, and make less mistakes ;-)




                      Thanks!



                      I got a response on the Steinberg forum, this might be interesting for you, too:



                      https://www.steinberg.net/forum/view...?f=175&t=32091
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                      • #12
                        Couldn't you just open the tempo map, highlight all the changes, set the "snap to grid" function to be one bar long, and drag everything across to the right the same number of bars you dragged your audio? Off the top of my head that'd maybe work?
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                        • #13
                          Try being real quiet
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                          • #14






                            Quote Originally Posted by Pepi
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                            Try being real quiet




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                            • #15
                              The problem is solved: someone on the Steinberg forum gave me the perfect answer:






                              change the bar offset in the project setup window to anything other than zero



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